The Star: BC Not Done Tweaking the Lineup

**•LX•** · 07-05-2009, 02:20 PM

Singleton would be nice.

Febreezy · 07-05-2009, 02:43 PM

Dahntay, would add some grit.
Or as Phil Jackson calls it, "Dirty Playing"

**TheAudman** · 07-05-2009, 03:13 PM

Did someone say "grit"

Matt Barnes fits that category.

10gizzle · 07-05-2009, 03:20 PM

I think a lot of people here would be happy to see us sign Matt Barnes.

He's tall [6'7], can handle the ball, versatile on both ends of the floor. Not really a beacon of consistency when it comes to his shooting but he's a great guy to have off the bench.

Very intense too. Definitely a good 6th man.

jeffb · 07-05-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10gizzle

I think a lot of people here would be happy to see us sign Matt Barnes.

He's tall [6'7], can handle the ball, versatile on both ends of the floor. Not really a beacon of consistency when it comes to his shooting but he's a great guy to have off the bench.

Very intense too. Definitely a good 6th man.

Honestly him or Kleiza would be fine by me, especially considering we also have Derozan as well.

10gizzle · 07-05-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

Honestly him or Kleiza would be fine by me, especially considering we also have Derozan as well.

I'd rather have Barnes than Kleiza tbh.

They're both fairly streaky, the latter definitely the better long range shooter.

I just like what Barnes brings to the table. A little bit of everything tied together with a lot of heart and intensity.he'd be a good fit with the guys we already have.

AR1815 · 07-05-2009, 03:45 PM

Here are some swingman FAs this year that haven't really been mentioned:

Flip Murray
Wally Szczerbiak
Stephen Graham (just kidding)
Desmond Mason
Keith Bogans
Bobby Jackson
Juan Dixon (maybe he'd fit into Triano's system better)

These guys could be had for cheap, and under the right circumstances, I think they could still make an impact. Hopefully BC is looking at these guys as at least last resorts. I think Murray, Jackson, and Mason are the most talented of bunch. Although Wally pretty much disappeared after a very solid time in Minny (remember he was an All-Star?), and hasn't really been used in Cleveland.

I'm not sure what the status on these players are concerning their commitments to their teams, but I haven't heard anything on any of them and I'm pretty sure that all of them would sign the bi-annual exception, and a lot could be had for vet's minimum.

10gizzle · 07-05-2009, 03:56 PM

I really like Keith Bogans too.

Great defensive player, can knock down the three....very gritty.

I wonder what his price is?

jeffb · 07-05-2009, 04:04 PM

Marion (S&T)/Cash for Deng (just dreaming)

AP (S&T) for Belinelli

Which allows you to retain Delfino and use MLE on Barnes and LLE on Rasho.

Jose/Ukic/Belinelli
Delfino/Belinelli/DD
Turkoglu/Deng/Barnes
Bosh/Evans/Pops
Bargnani/Rasho/POB

Round 2 here we come...

MikeToronto · 07-05-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

Marion (S&T)/Cash for Deng (just dreaming)

AP (S&T) for Belinelli

Which allows you to retain Delfino and use MLE on Barnes and LLE on Rasho.

Jose/Ukic/Belinelli
Delfino/Belinelli/DD
Turkoglu/Deng/Barnes
Bosh/Evans/Pops
Bargnani/Rasho/POB

Round 2 here we come...

OMG! But you sure can dream.

10gizzle · 07-05-2009, 04:09 PM

15 million dollars for a backup SF?

No thanks buddy...lol

jeffb · 07-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeToronto

OMG! But you sure can dream.

Go big or go home.

jeffb · 07-05-2009, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10gizzle

15 million dollars for a backup SF?

No thanks buddy...lol

Actually he makes 10.3Mil this coming season. But ok....

Jose/Belinelli/Ukic
Turkoglu/Delfino/DD
Deng/Barnes/DD
Bosh/Evans/Pops
Bargs/Rasho/POB

Just like that...poof he's a starter.

CripwalkinK · 07-05-2009, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10gizzle

I'd rather have Barnes than Kleiza tbh.

They're both fairly streaky, the latter definitely the better long range shooter.

I just like what Barnes brings to the table. A little bit of everything tied together with a lot of heart and intensity.he'd be a good fit with the guys we already have.

Kleiza's a big body and he's got better scoring mechanics then Barnes. But Barnes does have that grit that would fit in pretty well with our group.

CripwalkinK · 07-05-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb

Marion (S&T)/Cash for Deng (just dreaming)

AP (S&T) for Belinelli

Which allows you to retain Delfino and use MLE on Barnes and LLE on Rasho.

Jose/Ukic/Belinelli
Delfino/Belinelli/DD
Turkoglu/Deng/Barnes
Bosh/Evans/Pops
Bargnani/Rasho/POB

Round 2 here we come...

Deng's contract is uglier then himself (and I'm a Deng fan too). I like his game a lot but I wouldn't dare taking on that contract of his.

B-RAD · 07-05-2009, 04:26 PM

boom boo yeah, what did i tell you he is still trying to get marion. that would be the sickest lineup. the bench would be crap possibly. but, next season with some extra draft picks we'd be able to start to fill out the depth.

EDIT: whoops misread that. scratch what i just put. he's trying to keep delfino or parker. i would prefer delfino because he is only in his 20's.

on a side note, i still think bryan should try to score marion.

the_ raps_analyst · 07-05-2009, 04:29 PM

Barnes would definatly be a better fit than Kleiza IMO because hes very gritty as people have mentioned.

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AR1815 is set adrift on a memory bliss of you. The Blond Superman Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 467 Representing:	Here are some swingman FAs this year that haven't really been mentioned: Flip Murray Wally Szczerbiak Stephen Graham (just kidding) Desmond Mason Keith Bogans Bobby Jackson Juan Dixon (maybe he'd fit into Triano's system better) These guys could be had for cheap, and under the right circumstances, I think they could still make an impact. Hopefully BC is looking at these guys as at least last resorts. I think Murray, Jackson, and Mason are the most talented of bunch. Although Wally pretty much disappeared after a very solid time in Minny (remember he was an All-Star?), and hasn't really been used in Cleveland. I'm not sure what the status on these players are concerning their commitments to their teams, but I haven't heard anything on any of them and I'm pretty sure that all of them would sign the bi-annual exception, and a lot could be had for vet's minimum. Last edited by AR1815; 07-05-2009 at 03:47 PM.

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B-RAD is a gearbox of epic proportions. Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,089 Representing:	boom boo yeah, what did i tell you he is still trying to get marion. that would be the sickest lineup. the bench would be crap possibly. but, next season with some extra draft picks we'd be able to start to fill out the depth. EDIT: whoops misread that. scratch what i just put. he's trying to keep delfino or parker. i would prefer delfino because he is only in his 20's. on a side note, i still think bryan should try to score marion. Last edited by B-RAD; 07-05-2009 at 04:31 PM.

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10gizzle is Luis Scola Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 778 Representing:	I think a lot of people here would be happy to see us sign Matt Barnes. He's tall [6'7], can handle the ball, versatile on both ends of the floor. Not really a beacon of consistency when it comes to his shooting but he's a great guy to have off the bench. Very intense too. Definitely a good 6th man.

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10gizzle is Luis Scola Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 778 Representing:	I really like Keith Bogans too. Great defensive player, can knock down the three....very gritty. I wonder what his price is?

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jeffb is Pissed, WINDOWS 7 was his idea!!! Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 18,868 Representing:	Marion (S&T)/Cash for Deng (just dreaming) AP (S&T) for Belinelli Which allows you to retain Delfino and use MLE on Barnes and LLE on Rasho. Jose/Ukic/Belinelli Delfino/Belinelli/DD Turkoglu/Deng/Barnes Bosh/Evans/Pops Bargnani/Rasho/POB Round 2 here we come...

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10gizzle is Luis Scola Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 778 Representing:	15 million dollars for a backup SF? No thanks buddy...lol

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