Sources: Raptors not done dealing
Old 07-29-2010, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Team and league sources say this isn't the last transaction of a rather odd summer for Colangelo and the Raptors. Still armed with the 14.5 million dollar exception obtained for Chris Bosh- and obviously still willing to trade Jose Calderon and Reggie Evans. Colangelo still has plenty of room to make moves.
Raptors add depth in no-risk deal - thestar.com

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Old 07-29-2010, 11:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Since you usually post this stuff up.

What does "league sources" actually mean? Does that mean the Raptors organization or does that mean someone at the NBA office? or another team. And when is a team really not in a position to trade?
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i truly think that when MJ pulled the plug on that Chandler deal, that took the wind out of our sails and really crushed us. BC has been reeling ever since.

anyone watch the USA team training/practices on rapstv? Chandler is looking healthy and really good.

fuck MJ.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Since you usually post this stuff up.

What does "league sources" actually mean? Does that mean the Raptors organization or does that mean someone at the NBA office? or another team. And when is a team really not in a position to trade?
To me, league sources could mean almost anyone, maybe guys like Aldridge, Bucher, other repoters with connections, other GM's?? Teams are always in a position to trade imo, but BC has options here considering he probably will spend up to the tax as he stated a few weeks ago.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i truly think that when MJ pulled the plug on that Chandler deal, that took the wind out of our sails and really crushed us. BC has been reeling ever since.

anyone watch the USA team training/practices on rapstv? Chandler is looking healthy and really good.

fuck MJ.
+1 BC is scouring the league and is taking his time to get the best possible deal(s) out there because it's probably slim pickings at this point. I still say Jose will be gone, he won't keep him after after Jose was told he was already dealt.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:55 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I'm just going to say Alvin Williams was traded and then given back to us. Simply because he was traded once (jose) doesn't mean he's a "lock" to be traded again.

As for this source. I could say every team in the league is likely not done dealing. In fact, I'll go on record now and say it. "All 30 teams in the NBA are looking at trades to improve themselves and maximize their assets". Easy.
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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BC is not reeling... dude is super calm...
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:06 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Don't you guys really think if they said BC was done dealing that ticket sales would plummet? With his recent big time addition of David Anderson BC may be scouring the leagues GM's to find out how he can get Aaron Gray ,Renaldo Balkman and Chris Quinn on the roster
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Last trade deadline there was much smoke but he did absolutely nothing. Not even a token POB trade from 2009.
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Last trade deadline there was much smoke but he did absolutely nothing. Not even a token POB trade from 2009.
Why would he. We were the 3rd hottest team in the NBA the previous 2 months and nobody here wanted anyone moved anyway.
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:48 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 07-29-2010, 12:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Why would he. We were the 3rd hottest team in the NBA the previous 2 months and nobody here wanted anyone moved anyway.
Yes - BC said he liked his team. Now he says he realized that he didn't have a franchise player, that the point guards were being shoe horned into combo guard roles and that they were lacking mental toughness.

He loves to have things both ways though. I don't see how nobody wanted anybody moved. I sure as hell wanted to see a move. I would say you might have wanted to see Hedo moved Jeff. Not that I foresaw the collapse at all, but this team could have not only made the playoffs, but won a few playoff games with the right addition.

Colangelo got a buzz going about being buyers, and being agreeable to paying tax, and it was by and large bullshit.
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Oh - and he raised expectations about the return of Reggie Evans - being sure to point out that he would not only add toughness, but work well within the offense. Another huge fail.
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Yes - BC said he liked his team. Now he says he realized that he didn't have a franchise player, that the point guards were being shoe horned into combo guard roles and that they were lacking mental toughness.

He loves to have things both ways though. I don't see how nobody wanted anybody moved. I sure as hell wanted to see a move. I would say you might have wanted to see Hedo moved Jeff. Not that I foresaw the collapse at all, but this team could have not only made the playoffs, but won a few playoff games with the right addition.

Colangelo got a buzz going about being buyers, and being agreeable to paying tax, and it was by and large bullshit.
Who doesn't like to have things both ways? In January-February it was rumoured that we might be going after Butler or Iggy and many were saying, noooooo we can't mess with the chemistry.

If he made a move at the deadline this place would have been pretty divided.

Now many of those same people are ripping BC and saying he should have traded Bosh or got something at the deadline etc....

Another example is last summer, everyone was bowing down to BC predicting a top 5 team and perhaps a 2nd round appearance. Now.....well they're not nearly as positive about his great moves last summer.
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Oh - and he raised expectations about the return of Reggie Evans - being sure to point out that he would not only add toughness, but work well within the offense. Another huge fail.
Funny, most here were blowing a load over him while watching pre-season last fall and thought he was gonna make a big difference once back in January. Raptors fans---huge fail
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Who doesn't like to have things both ways? In January-February it was rumoured that we might be going after Butler or Iggy and many were saying, noooooo we can't mess with the chemistry.

If he made a move at the deadline this place would have been pretty divided.

Now many of those same people are ripping BC and saying he should have traded Bosh or got something at the deadline etc....

Another example is last summer, everyone was bowing down to BC predicting a top 5 team and perhaps a 2nd round appearance. Now.....well they're not nearly as positive about his great moves last summer.
yep...the people that were praising the team & bc durung the all start beak are the same people that are bashing the team & bc right now...
but when shit hits the fan, everyone claim to have been against the move (or the move that wasnt made)...
this shit goes on every offseason....
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Funny, most here were blowing a load over him while watching pre-season last fall and thought he was gonna make a big difference once back in January. Raptors fans---huge fail
The standing ovations were ridiculous, without a doubt. But the bigger issue for me is the judgement of the man at the helm, suggesting that the biggest surprise of the season would be Reggie's offensive abilities when asked on the FAN by Eric and Jack. And that was after not wanting to consider Beli, because it should be no surprise what he can do.
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Who doesn't like to have things both ways? In January-February it was rumoured that we might be going after Butler or Iggy and many were saying, noooooo we can't mess with the chemistry.

If he made a move at the deadline this place would have been pretty divided.

Now many of those same people are ripping BC and saying he should have traded Bosh or got something at the deadline etc....

Another example is last summer, everyone was bowing down to BC predicting a top 5 team and perhaps a 2nd round appearance. Now.....well they're not nearly as positive about his great moves last summer.
It was a little more involved than all that. I agreed with Chisholm that he should be careful not to mess with the chemistry by just making a move for the sake of making a move. Iggy could have been a disaster as an add on. Butler as it turned out, didn't exactly gel with his new team. But there could have been a good move that could have strengthened the chemistry by getting rid of some of the obvious deadwood and improving the defense. The kind of move that the Chris Childs deal provided.

And you know what - I wouldn't bitch at all had he not had a big presser announcing his plan to give the team that extra spark.

But because people here are good at hindsight means that BC can supposedly get away with very little foresight himself, while talking out of both sides of his mouth. None of us here are meant to be held accountable for the performance of the team Jeff. Colangelo gets paid to be held accountable. Please don't tell me you equate the two situations in any way.
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