Sonny Weems FA worth?

jeffb · 11-18-2010, 06:53 PM

Ok let's say Weems continues to impress, he's currently averaging 14.1ppg/2.1apg/2.4reb. If he averages 14-16ppg, how much do you think he'll be worth in the open market next summer? What is the most the Raptors should throw at him if they want to keep him?

It's a little early, but since he's a FA and he's playing well i was just wondering what you guys thought about Weems and his free angency next summer.

If you had to decide now, would you want him back next season?

TORaptor4Ever · 11-18-2010, 07:09 PM

I don't think that there's any question that he should be back next season....

He's a kid with a good mid-range game who seems to have added a 3-pt shot over the summer. He also plays defense which is paramount.

It's going to be tough.... because he honestly deserves more than Amir and we paid Amir what $5M per?

I'd be happy to lock Sonny up with a contract around the 4 yr. $17M range.

I can see him commanding more on the open market though. Esp. if he keeps scoring at his current clip.

Some desperate team might even offer him the MLE.

DonMughal · 11-18-2010, 07:49 PM

It's going to be tough enough to pry him away from DeMar.

js12 · 11-18-2010, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal

It's going to be tough enough to pry him away from DeMar.

+1

If Sonny ever gets traded, DeMar would beg BC to not go through with it or at least package him in the deal.

MrClutch · 11-18-2010, 08:33 PM

i wish we had extended his contract before the beginning of the season cause were probably going to spend more on him now then before the season started

**Claudius** · 11-18-2010, 09:13 PM

He's a 3-4 million dollar a year player. He doesn't do anything too outstanding and he still plays a little too selfishly. Keep the contract cap friendly.

leftcoastbballfan · 11-18-2010, 09:58 PM

A lot of NBA GM's will be scared off by the fact that he has done all of this on an unsuccessful team. I hope BC doesn't give him Amir type money

Psi · 11-18-2010, 10:02 PM

4 years 14 mil. Don't do another Amir here.

Dark Knight · 11-18-2010, 10:05 PM

Either way, who would've thought that Weems would've amounted to anything when he was considered a "throw in" in that trade last season. Wow!

mb666 · 11-18-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius

He's a 3-4 million dollar a year player. He doesn't do anything too outstanding and he still plays a little too selfishly. Keep the contract cap friendly.

Yea I'd do 3 years at about $11,500,000.

Weems has been playing really well but he has reached his potential. Don't see how else he can improve. I also don't want to get super biased after three good games. Doubt the consistency will be there even with minutes.

On another note, I don't think Derozan would mind too much if Weems leaves. He'll get more minutes as a 2 and could move to the 3 position.

Raptors main priority is getting a C or PF that would be a defensive presence. Nothing against Weems but we're solid at the SF/Guard positions. Have to spend money wisely on building the team instead of individual players.

jeffb · 11-18-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mb666

Yea I'd do 3 years at about $11,500,000.

Weems has been playing really well but he has reached his potential. Don't see how else he can improve. I also don't want to get super biased after three good games. Doubt the consistency will be there even with minutes.

He can still improve. The guy has been in the league, playing consistent minutes what, 90 games? He can improve further from 3pt range and if anything else he'll mature as this season and next season goes on. To say he's reached his potential so early in his NBA career is a little premature.

mb666 · 11-18-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

He can still improve. The guy has been in the league, playing consistent minutes what, 90 games? He can improve further from 3pt range and if anything else he'll mature as this season and next season goes on. To say he's reached his potential so early in his NBA career is a little premature.

Well he is 24. That's not that young... Kleiza is 25.

Obviously he can slightly improve aspects of his game but I doubt it will make him much better. I mean he's been playing so well recently, what else can you ask for?

His shoot has been good... he's making his 3s. Doing a good job driving the ball... aka dunking the ball and getting on ESPN. Decent defense. He's not going to get any more athletic. Any small improvements will prob be diminished by the scouting report on him. He's not a 20 pts a nighe player and it will balance out.

**'trane** · 11-18-2010, 10:57 PM

if he puts up those kinds of numbers all year i think it will take 4 years/$20 mil at least. and that would be worth it.

creative1mm · 11-18-2010, 11:17 PM

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if he puts up those kinds of numbers all year i think it will take 4 years/$20 mil at least. and that would be worth it.

yea.. that's a good contract for Sonny

11-18-2010, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Claudius

He's a 3-4 million dollar a year player. He doesn't do anything too outstanding and he still plays a little too selfishly. Keep the contract cap friendly.

I disagree with that figure.

He's a volume shooter who can do nothing but hustle & score... inconsistently that is.

Someone who gets paid 3-4 million could be one-dimensional but it would have to be involve being a defensive stopper (bruce bowen) or three-point shooter (house)
Not a chucker who's dropping 12 per on a team that is 6 below .500

Unfortunately, Brian is the type of GM stupid enough to pull out the cash for Sonny Weems, a 4 year deal worth 16 million maybe...

I wonder how many people are still for that amir johnson re-signing??

Windex · 11-19-2010, 12:04 AM

trade him, he's the only guy with value above his contract
pair him with an undesirable (Bargs) and get a better return

eazy187 · 11-19-2010, 01:02 AM

isn't he averaging like 18 points since becoming a starter?

if he can stay consistent i think he'll get 3-4years @ around $4.5mill per.

11-19-2010, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuzzy

I wonder how many people are still for that amir johnson re-signing??

I'm suprised everyone has yet to start bashing Johnson hard.. He's a fouling machine!

SoGood · 11-19-2010, 01:28 AM

considering kleiza is getting about 5M...and amir is getting 6M+

Sonny could easily demand 6M+ or MLE if he remains to produce the way he is...
hell, look @ Wes Matthews...he got 5yrs @ 34M...he was kind of in the same position Sonny was in

carp · 11-19-2010, 08:40 AM

Jamario Moon money at best, who is also overpaid..... if it's more than 3M per it's absolutely an overpay. He is a nice piece to have, but not irreplaceable.

At some point, the job and personal life become more important than friends so I don't see an eventual parting of Weems and DD as anything to fear.

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11-18-2010, 07:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
TORaptor4Ever "Fake All-Star" Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,349 Representing:	I don't think that there's any question that he should be back next season.... He's a kid with a good mid-range game who seems to have added a 3-pt shot over the summer. He also plays defense which is paramount. It's going to be tough.... because he honestly deserves more than Amir and we paid Amir what $5M per? I'd be happy to lock Sonny up with a contract around the 4 yr. $17M range. I can see him commanding more on the open market though. Esp. if he keeps scoring at his current clip. Some desperate team might even offer him the MLE.

11-18-2010, 07:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
DonMughal the boss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mississauga Posts: 4,070 Representing:	It's going to be tough enough to pry him away from DeMar.

11-18-2010, 08:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
MrClutch ........ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 2,370 Representing:	i wish we had extended his contract before the beginning of the season cause were probably going to spend more on him now then before the season started

11-18-2010, 09:13 PM	#6 (permalink)
Claudius contemplating The Killing Joke Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burkina Faso, Disputed Zone Posts: 10,017 Representing:	He's a 3-4 million dollar a year player. He doesn't do anything too outstanding and he still plays a little too selfishly. Keep the contract cap friendly.

11-18-2010, 09:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
leftcoastbballfan the anti BC lol Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 526 Representing:	A lot of NBA GM's will be scared off by the fact that he has done all of this on an unsuccessful team. I hope BC doesn't give him Amir type money

11-18-2010, 10:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
Psi Only likes Hockey with 'Fantasy' infront of it Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,850 Representing:	4 years 14 mil. Don't do another Amir here.

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Dark Knight waiting for the sun to come out so he can let his guns out. Jamario Moon! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Electric Avenue Posts: 15,458 Representing:	Either way, who would've thought that Weems would've amounted to anything when he was considered a "throw in" in that trade last season. Wow!

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'trane I believe in Masai! giant steps Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,550 Representing:	if he puts up those kinds of numbers all year i think it will take 4 years/$20 mil at least. and that would be worth it.

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Windex the next dictator of MLSE fresh and clean Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: uʍop ɹǝpun Posts: 22,524 Representing:	trade him, he's the only guy with value above his contract pair him with an undesirable (Bargs) and get a better return

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eazy187 better than you Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 893 Representing:	isn't he averaging like 18 points since becoming a starter? if he can stay consistent i think he'll get 3-4years @ around $4.5mill per.

11-19-2010, 01:28 AM	#19 (permalink)
SoGood is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 503 Representing:	considering kleiza is getting about 5M...and amir is getting 6M+ Sonny could easily demand 6M+ or MLE if he remains to produce the way he is... hell, look @ Wes Matthews...he got 5yrs @ 34M...he was kind of in the same position Sonny was in

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carp . Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 11,485 Representing:	Jamario Moon money at best, who is also overpaid..... if it's more than 3M per it's absolutely an overpay. He is a nice piece to have, but not irreplaceable. At some point, the job and personal life become more important than friends so I don't see an eventual parting of Weems and DD as anything to fear.