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Carlos Danger 12-05-2012 11:44 AM

Something has to give..but when?
 
As everyone knows, we're 4-14. We've had a lot of close games, and could be closer to .500, but obviously there's a reason we're not.

Whether it's a trade, or a firing of BC or Dwayne Casey, how long do you think it should/will take?

carp 12-05-2012 11:48 AM

We need Dec 15 to get here so quickly... Landry needs to be activated and shipped out! Call Houston and LA and get the bus ticket purchased already!

Zalgiris 12-05-2012 11:50 AM

Coach must go, it doesn't look like this team has any offensive plays, just plain simple no brainer isolation

Raptors1995 12-05-2012 11:50 AM

I can't see BC firing Dwayne Casey this early. If he goes 1-9 or something like that in the next 10 games he could be gone. Regarding a trade: teams are going to be more active after dec 15, when offseason signings can be included. It makes it easier for fillers to be included.

Raptors1995 12-05-2012 11:54 AM

Damn if we somehow got James harden that would have been sweet. I always knew he was a really good player, but he's playing like one of the leagues top guards.

ZanTheMan 12-05-2012 12:16 PM

Not sure if this needed another thread...

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 12-05-2012 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalgiris (Post 714573)
Coach must go, it doesn't look like this team has any offensive plays, just plain simple no brainer isolation

I am so sick of hearing this garbage about DC.

Kleiza needs to go since he has no useful skills. There.

carp 12-05-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 714590)
I am so sick of hearing this garbage about DC.

Kleiza needs to go since he has no useful skills. There.

I appreciated the subtle humour of this post.

I actually don't want Kleiza to go though, he's the only guy that ever stands up for us. Nobody else is willing to get a tech, demand respect from the refs or talk back to anybody... it's gross.

Someguy again 12-05-2012 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZanTheMan (Post 714586)
Not sure if this needed another thread...

no! more threads!

We need threads on the following subjects too!

1) Should casey get a paycheck cut instead of a firing as a slap on the wrist for BC signing landry fields!?
2) Calderon's beard: grows faster than the speed of light!?
3) Fields: Why can he get a girlfriend that hot BUT NOT GET LAYUP
4) Fields Girlfriend is some hot stuff!!!
5) Fields: at least he gets the occasional defensive rebound right!?
6) Fields: his girlfriend mang, SO HOT
7) Bargnani: maybe he should eat spaghetti with chopsticks to appeal to the asian audience in his commercials (I WOULD BUY HIS JERSEY!!1!)
8) OMG I WANT RUDY GAY
9) Ed davis needs more touches!1!1!!

DonMughal 12-05-2012 12:29 PM

Lol firing Casey........even if we only win 25 games this season, chances are he stays.

carp 12-05-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 714595)
no! more threads!

We need threads on the following subjects too!

1) Should casey get a paycheck cut instead of a firing as a slap on the wrist for BC signing landry fields!?
2) Calderon's beard: grows faster than the speed of light!?
3) Fields: Why can he get a girlfriend that hot BUT NOT GET LAYUP
4) Fields Girlfriend is some hot stuff!!!
5) Fields: at least he gets the occasional defensive rebound right!?
6) Fields: his girlfriend mang, SO HOT
7) Bargnani: maybe he should eat spaghetti with chopsticks to appeal to the asian audience in his commercials (I WOULD BUY HIS JERSEY!!1!)
8) OMG I WANT RUDY GAY
9) Ed davis needs more touches!1!1!!

:yeah:

Zalgiris 12-05-2012 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 714590)
I am so sick of hearing this garbage about DC.

Kleiza needs to go since he has no useful skills. There.


What do you call useful skills in this Raptors team? Being able to isolate like a boss every night because coach gets lost in every game, in every 4th quarter?
Seriously, what useful skills Bargnani has? Being a blackhole? Having Bargnani in your team and saying that someone else doesn't have useful skills is a terrible thing to say. Bargnani is freaking antibasketballplayer!!!
We had McGuire with very clear useful skills - defense. We dumped him. Why? Because staff has no idea what they want from this team, players don't know what coaches want from them, they panic every game and we lose every game.
I would kill myself if I had to play in one team with Bargnani. Every time he gets the ball game stops.

And I agree, trade Kleiza to Lakers, where he'd be substitute because he would be substitute level, not because team has 5 similar SFs and don't know how to use them.
It's not a meltdown, I'm just pissed that I bet money on Raptors making the playoffs before season started

box92 12-05-2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 714595)
no! more threads!

We need threads on the following subjects too!

1) Should casey get a paycheck cut instead of a firing as a slap on the wrist for BC signing landry fields!?
2) Calderon's beard: grows faster than the speed of light!?
3) Fields: Why can he get a girlfriend that hot BUT NOT GET LAYUP
4) Fields Girlfriend is some hot stuff!!!
5) Fields: at least he gets the occasional defensive rebound right!?
6) Fields: his girlfriend mang, SO HOT
7) Bargnani: maybe he should eat spaghetti with chopsticks to appeal to the asian audience in his commercials (I WOULD BUY HIS JERSEY!!1!)
8) OMG I WANT RUDY GAY
9) Ed davis needs more touches!1!1!!

hahaha :yeah:

Bargn88 12-05-2012 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zalgiris (Post 714743)
What do you call useful skills in this Raptors team? Being able to isolate like a boss every night because coach gets lost in every game, in every 4th quarter?
Seriously, what useful skills Bargnani has? Being a blackhole? Having Bargnani in your team and saying that someone else doesn't have useful skills is a terrible thing to say. Bargnani is freaking antibasketballplayer!!!
We had McGuire with very clear useful skills - defense. We dumped him. Why? Because staff has no idea what they want from this team, players don't know what coaches want from them, they panic every game and we lose every game.
I would kill myself if I had to play in one team with Bargnani. Every time he gets the ball game stops.

And I agree, trade Kleiza to Lakers, where he'd be substitute because he would be substitute level, not because team has 5 similar SFs and don't know how to use them.
It's not a meltdown, I'm just pissed that I bet money on Raptors making the playoffs before season started

So...

Kleiza good?
Kleiza on Lakers good?
Mcguire Very good?
Bargnani Bad?

:crazy:


I get the language barrier, but I think were starting to understand each other better.

Glad that's settled.

:appl:

Ammo 12-05-2012 07:08 PM

I'd be shocked if Casey were not here the whole season. We all agreed that the start of the season was going to be spectacularly tough.

Managment said they were in building mode rather than re-building and that they could challenge for a playoff spot, but they could not say they would get one. (36 wins in the eastern conference is challenging for a spot)

Somehow, some fans heard that as 4th seed or something.

Zalgiris 12-05-2012 08:21 PM

New coach would bench our rookies and go for the wins with experienced guys, but still couldn't make it to the PO. So it looks like an easy decision to keep Casey. Also it's quite a new roster, 3 new starters, so it takes time for coach and team to adjust (LA Lakers for example. oh wait, they fired Brown, so maybe not Lakers :lol: ). There are pros and cons that I see in both keeping and getting rid of DC, but pros of keeping him are bigger.

You can give second chances many times, but fire only once. So better give all chances possible before you're sure it's time to fire.


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