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Old 12-03-2007, 12:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am sorry in advance if this has been discussed already, but what compelling reasons do we have to move over here? No offence, Doc, but your personal decisions are not enough, at least not for me. I'd love to hear from others before making a decision to support this forum as participating in more than one online Raptors community is too much for me.

BTW, at least to me, this site seems at least twice as slow as the last home base.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am sorry in advance if this has been discussed already, but what compelling reasons do we have to move over here? No offence, Doc, but your personal decisions are not enough, at least not for me. I'd love to hear from others before making a decision to support this forum as participating in more than one online Raptors community is too much for me.

BTW, at least to me, this site seems at least twice as slow as the last home base.
Personally for me, in the last week, I have had my life threatened ...thats enough for me. I will still be at both though.

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Old 12-03-2007, 12:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I am sorry in advance if this has been discussed already, but what compelling reasons do we have to move over here? No offence, Doc, but your personal decisions are not enough, at least not for me. I'd love to hear from others before making a decision to support this forum as participating in more than one online Raptors community is too much for me.

BTW, at least to me, this site seems at least twice as slow as the last home base.
Personally, I need a break from what EBS was and what is occurring. I am sick of every third page of a thread being hijacked by pointless banter. I missed the passion of the argument with fellow intelliegent posters.

Again, for me this was not a decision to find where Doc is and support a new site, but instead it is a chance to get my love of discussing the game back and away from the petty arguements.

Mike, simply put, it's a chance for me to get a chance to love to discuss basketball.
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Personally for me, in the last week, I have had my life threatened and been told I will be in "daycare"...thats enough for me.
I could get who said that.....and daycare is a joke.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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No offense at all Mike .... I'm tired of BS and removed myself from the problem. I know I was a big part of the sites problems at EBS, so I made their decision easy and resigned. I'm not on a spamming crusuade and stealing members, I'm just coming here to help out lang & Jay who I've been gracious in allowing me to help them out here. Your all grown adults and can make your own decisions. If you guys want to stay and deal with "Fart & poopie" jokes then be my guest. My decision is to leave on good terms with Eze and leave it be.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok, Benzo, that's fair. But whose site is this? And what guarantees do we have that it will

a). survive for longer than a month or so and
b). (more likely) won't get even worse than Eze's pretty soon.

Look, my personal philosophy includes fighting rather than retreating. I don't care about death threats over the 'Net and I certainly don't care about daycare threats - but if this forum is going to be moderated the way Eze's was, we will be back to the square one in no time, believe you me.

Although I can only assume there are no plans to have Mavs' or Rockets' board around these parts...
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Mike, I've also left lang & Jay (the owners of RF) a message regarding the speed of the site to see if they can look into it.
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I can agree that the speed of the site may need to be addressed as we get more traffic. I think the site is Lang's. If everytime I post something though, those guys follow me around and I get put in "daycare"...gimme a break.
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Old 12-03-2007, 01:58 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hey Mike, welcome to the site, and thanks for voicing your concerns. I'll try addressing them now.

Raptors Forum has primarily been a blog site, since 2005. Last year we implemented a message board (this is our second), but due to the poor anti-spam features of that particular software, we decided to start a new message board yesterday with a new platform. Our site will be around for as long as the Raptors stay in Toronto, so rest assured this message forum will stay for the long haul.

I'm aware of the general problems at EBS, and having been a poster their myself, I have seen the general decline in quality dialog. I have no intention of ever letting that happen here, and with such a large influx of members coming here from EBS, I'm sure we all have a common interest in never letting those same mistakes happen here. So they won't.

As for the speed issues that I've recently been made aware of, I will take care of them promptly. This site is our baby - has been since the inception of the blog, and we intend to nurture it for life. If you do decide to make a home here, rest assured that there always will be a place here to call home.

Thanks for joining, and I'm already excited with such a great group of guys starting the board off on the right foot.

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Old 12-03-2007, 02:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Im glad to see something new, this has a fresh feeling. Althoug Ill still post at Ebs a little bit. Specially at the memphis forum.
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Old 12-03-2007, 03:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi all ... I just joined this forum and I have the same concerns as Mike has. If the purpose of this forum is to discuss only Raptors basketball then I agree is different than EBS as doesn't have to interfere with other fan base. On the other hand what guarantees that the garbage talk from EBS doesn't migrate over here? What I am really interested in is to have high quality discussion about bball ... game strategies, game analysis without getting into childish discussions just because we don't have subjects to discuss (aka TJ vs Jose all over)!
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Old 12-03-2007, 04:03 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What do you consider garbage talk insight? If your talking about constant thread hijacking and provoking, then no it will not continue here I can guarantee that. But if people want to debate who's better between Ford and Jose till their blue in the face because things are slow then have at it. I think the reason that people grew tired was particular members there made it their goal to be a distraction. So, if it didn't bother you, then kudos to you man. But personally, I just had enough.
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Old 12-03-2007, 11:51 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Cant say I saw this coming. Not a big fan of it right now (the migration, not the site) ... Im definitely not planning on leaving EBS, but since it seems like the majority of you guys will be here, I might start checking up on you guys. Since im not a big fan of talking to myself.

Eh... fuckin internet.
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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And you shouldn't leave EBS Sauce because you're cool with things the way they are. I on the other hand am fed-up and I should be allowed to feel that way. All of you guys know how I've felt for awhile and so does Eze. I haven't been going behind anyone's back to be malicious to EBS. Members emailed me asking what I was going to do and I told them where I'd be. I've been here at RF for over a year now trying to help lang & Jay get their message board off the ground. Now I can focus my spare time in doing what I didn't do last year when I first became a member here.

If the EBS crew want to come talk ball here then that was their decision. I wasn't holding a knife to anyone's throat or doing anything behind Eze's back. But I also think most will remain at EBS so you guys have no worries. Who says you can't be active on two boards at the same time? Most here do that already.

I made my decision because after spending the better half of 4 years busting my balls there, the board is getting worse instead of better. Will that change? Absolutely not. But after trying to resolve many pathetic issues with certain shit disturbing members, no seemed to ever want to listen. So why bother? I'll let others worry about it and worry about myself instead of thinking of others like I did.

Anyhow, I'm not going to discuss this anymore. Out of courtesy to both lang & Jay the owners of RF, I'll ask you guys to continue this conversation at EBS if you want because its not fair to either of them to have to deal with this. Thanks!
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Old 12-04-2007, 12:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
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I see my post got deleted. This place is better then EBS already!

Whatever.

I'm sure I'll get banned soon. Whoopie.
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Well I'm onboard because I love you guys.

But as someone else said this site is a bit slow to load and we'll see what the membership turnout is in time.

... I was wondering why the game thread was so dry (aside from the fact that we played the Bobcats, who seem to be packing it in rather early this season).
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:44 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The speed issues that some people are experiencing is currently being taken care of. Just trying to find out exactly what the root cause it, as right now it is intermittent and only affects some members.

As for the philosophy of this board, well... there really is no mandate. It's just a place where everyone can sit and talk about the Raptors and have good discussion, stuff that makes you more of an informed fan.

Debates are great, heated arguments can be revealing, but I'm really not into personal attacks. It starts with a one-liner, goes back and forth, eventually escalating to a point where one party crosses the line and the other goes berserk. That's not sports debate, that's malicious intent, and it's not the reason we're all here.

Some of us are more sensitive while other have thicker skins, but we really have to set a standard of common respect for one another if we're going to have a vibrant and intelligent basketball community. No one should ever have to feel that their dignity has been compromised by petty slander. I know we're all adults and are capable of playing nice, but I think it's important for all of us to know and understand the sense of community here, and I will enforce that the best I can with minimal intervention.

At any rate, I only bring this up to try to alleviate any fears that this board will crumble in the future. I know what's going on at the other site, and despite the different perspectives one can have on the situation, the bottom line is that some people are either hurt or uncomfortable being there. I don't ever want anyone to experience that here.

I'm really trying my best to bring everything together, and I thank you for faith and patience.
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:27 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Hi everyone!

This looks good. Hope everyone here will have a good good time. I'm looking forward to it both here and at EBS.

Sauce said...fucking internet... I say... internet rules... this way we can all be one big happy familiy ... living in two houses.

To the owners... good luck with everything, just remember to keep it simple, always.

and ...

I LOVE YOU DOC!



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Old 12-04-2007, 08:22 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Hey guys,

I'll keep things brief out of respect for the powers that be here....

Doc... it saddens me that you've chosen to leave EBS.

You were a big reason that I came over in the first place.

The hard work that you put into that place will probably NEVER fully be known outside of guys like Eze, Sauce & Harry & elT.

I think you're a quallity dude and this site is getting a hell of Mod.

That being said, I don't think the answer (for me anyway) is to leave. I still enjoy the bball that DOES happen there and I have too much respect and love (:nohomo: lol) for Sauce and Eze to leave 'em high and dry (not that that's what anyone here is doing, don't want to imply that).

I wish you guys all the best here.

Maybe you'll be better off without my argumentative ass anyway!

All the best!

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Old 12-04-2007, 09:02 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Wouldn't it just've been easier to email him all that instead of going to the trouble of registering? lol
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