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moremilk 06-24-2011 10:35 PM

so, are we happy or frustrated
 
it's kind of funny that there's a general feeling that the fanbase is upset with the pick, but somehow most people are actually fine with it in their comments. So what better than a poll to judge our state of mind on this topic ...

Don Vito 06-24-2011 10:36 PM

Happy after doing more research and getting expert opinions, also after watching tape. Jonas is the best big in the draft IMO, he also addresses the teams' needs. Drafting a guy like Knight would be a piss poor move.

Someguy again 06-24-2011 10:37 PM

disappointed about jonas' buyout problems

JDMtors 06-24-2011 10:38 PM

I was disappointed to furstrated then how all our players got drafted. Now Im meh...

js12 06-24-2011 10:39 PM

Initially I was very disappointed with the pick since Brandon Knight was still on the board. I was said that I didn't mind Valanciunas as a player- he tries hard on defence and rebounding. I was down on how he needs to wait a year before coming. Patience hasn't always been my thing, but hopefully this pick is for the better of the franchise.

I think that most people are upset because of the European big man label. I know he isn't strong, but he has a high motor and chases the ball. I think Dwane Casey said it best: "I don't care if he's from Tibucktu, as long as he can play ball".

dwchills 06-24-2011 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 553544)
Happy after doing more research and getting expert opinions, also after watching tape. Jonas is the best big in the draft IMO, he also addresses the teams' needs. Drafting a guy like Knight would be a piss poor move.

everything you said applied to barg when he was drafted and look where that's gotten us. knight might be a poor move but i think he has less bust potential than JV, only time will tell.

MrClutch 06-24-2011 11:04 PM

im glad with the pick now, we wont have an impact for next season but the 2012-13 season is when the raptors will begin to rise

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-24-2011 11:09 PM

At first I was fine with it and now I'm still fine with it.

Toebee 06-24-2011 11:18 PM

Not disappointed at all about the pick. Knight went lower than most expected. Not being able to watch their workouts and speak to the players, I can't really say it was a good pick or a bad pick. Craptors need a big and point badly. They got one through the draft. I have faith in DC & BC so we will see what happens.

box92 06-24-2011 11:56 PM

im happy about this, its getting other people who are ignorant and just fat out say the raptors suck, without taking into consideration that we are rebuilding, what makes me angry

Blaze 06-25-2011 12:00 AM

I'm holding my judgement till I see this guy play, which is a year from now...

DocHoliday99 06-25-2011 12:11 AM

I'm happy, its the coaching I wanted to see addressed most. I'm more excited about Casey being here and seeing what he'll do. I also liked the pick...I think Jonas will surprise many

rapsmannn 06-25-2011 03:35 AM

i really like the idea in theory that we took the best player left on the board

also i like stashing a guy in europe during a lockout year

another thing it slows down the development of the team overall which means another crucial top pick which is needed considering the talent drain on this team, one more of developign demar into a offensive dynamo and overall player, and hopefully andrea geting a little better which he seems to take smalls steps every eyar

Raptorman 06-25-2011 09:45 AM

I am tired of not being a player in the "Real NBA" sweepstakes.

After a 20 win season, we have kept most of our players, added a draft pick we cant use, and hired yet another unproven coach that is going to learn on our dime.

What is there to look forward to this season or next? That Derozan gets good enough that a real team wants him?

We are a minor league team that feeds the rest of the league. I want to see that changed. TODAY.

PS. I checked "frustrated"

Carlito 06-25-2011 09:56 AM

I was less disappointed, but more confused. Hay, I have my views but guys doing this for a living should know more about these guys because they are watching them.

We need a young center for the future. If we can get a Vet thru FA, this will stablize our team and enable JV to be an NBA player. Time will tell ...

Currently ... I'm okay / happy ...

Tommy C 06-25-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raptorman (Post 553680)
I am tired of not being a player in the "Real NBA" sweepstakes.

After a 20 win season, we have kept most of our players, added a draft pick we cant use, and hired yet another unproven coach that is going to learn on our dime.

What is there to look forward to this season or next? That Derozan gets good enough that a real team wants him?

We are a minor league team that feeds the rest of the league. I want to see that changed. TODAY.

PS. I checked "frustrated"

Well said. Needless to say I am frustrated. We needed a quick change and we got a potentially a good player who might be NBA ready only a few years from now.
I want to remind you all that it was BC who said on Bargs; ``it takes longer for big men to develop`` which means around 3-5 years from. To be honest, I don`t have the patience to wait, I don`t think he is gonna be so good that it`s worth the very long wait. I think he can be very good, but only in 4-5 years from now.

TS13 06-26-2011 11:53 AM

I can not believe what happened:confused2::confused2: Jona had to take Cleveland Cavaliers I can not understand why they left him :confused2::confused2:

carp 06-26-2011 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy C (Post 553857)
Well said. Needless to say I am frustrated. We needed a quick change and we got a potentially a good player who might be NBA ready only a few years from now.
I want to remind you all that it was BC who said on Bargs; ``it takes longer for big men to develop`` which means around 3-5 years from. To be honest, I don`t have the patience to wait, I don`t think he is gonna be so good that it`s worth the very long wait. I think he can be very good, but only in 4-5 years from now.

Hate to break it to you, but there wasn't a single player in this draft that was going to make Toronto into a contender this year.... Patience is a necessity at this point, otherwise you're just wallowing in negativity.

Tommy C 06-26-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carp (Post 554068)
Hate to break it to you, but there wasn't a single player in this draft that was going to make Toronto into a contender this year.... Patience is a necessity at this point, otherwise you're just wallowing in negativity.

True, not a contender but a better team for sure. Knowing there were names on the board like Knight and Walker and according to the Raps they are trying to find a C through FA, I don`t see the point of drafting Jonas.
I want the team to get better now because by the time Jonas will be the NBA ready player we all want him to be, the players we wanna keep may not gonna re-sign. We saw it with Carter, Bosh and if we don`t get better fast we may see it from DD, Amir and Ed. It`s a fact, no good players wanna play on a struggling team, knowing other teams want them, simple as that.

carp 06-26-2011 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy C (Post 554092)
True, not a contender but a better team for sure. Knowing there were names on the board like Knight and Walker and according to the Raps they are trying to find a C through FA, I don`t see the point of drafting Jonas.
I want the team to get better now because by the time Jonas will be the NBA ready player we all want him to be, the players we wanna keep may not gonna re-sign. We saw it with Carter, Bosh and if we don`t get better fast we may see it from DD, Amir and Ed. It`s a fact, no good players wanna play on a struggling team, knowing other teams want them, simple as that.

Carter re-signed twice actually. Bosh only once. McGrady didn't. I think that's all over-stated. You're right that they could have been immediately better, but this team is so far away from competing they needed longterm high-end talent.


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