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Old 01-02-2010, 01:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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i don't see this deal happening here. BC might be keen but the bean counting dipshits probably feel like we've committed enough long term contracts. acquiring him, and what we'd have to give up to get him, most likely derozan, might make sense from a basketball perspective, but there goes the financial flexibility everyone in the organization gets hard-ons over.
I agree it would be more about BC convincing MLSE to take the risk, though it would be an opportunity you couldn't pass up if real...

I just don't see enough of reason for Philly to do a deal with us unless they are really struggling financially or a third team is involved... DD would be gone for sure, but our expirings are POB, Pops, Wright and Rasho... not enough to match Iggy plus Brand/Dalembert... unless a third team needs Sammy D cause EB is virtually unmovable... Clearly they would move Kapono and his 6M... but that's not enough of a financial incentive... Unless they believe Thad Young is ready to carry the team...
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:18 PM   #22 (permalink)
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This article was posted last night. I'm surprised this hasn't been combined into one thread.
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Old 01-02-2010, 01:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Would a move to get AI bring Toronto up to par with the big 4 in the East? I'm not so sure, although it would make them more competitive. We might regret giving up on DD in 3-4 years if we trade him now and he blows up elsewhere. I think BC should make this move only if it brings us into the top echelon of the East.
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why does gaining iggy involve traiding dd? i doubt that bc would give up dd because of the rescent young gun thing going on so if anything were to happen it would make more sense to give jose + antoine wright or rasho
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To get Iggy we would have to give up eith Bosh or Bargnani, and quite frankly I feel uncomfortable trading one of them for iggy because Bosh is beyond Iggy, and Bargnani is slowly exploding to be one of the top centers in the league. Iggy is great, but isn't worth any of thos player. I say we wait it out until the offseason and see what happens. We are going to make the playoffs, and once Calderon is 100% and Evan finally starts to play, we will be looking like a different team. No need to panick people. To be honest, Evans will be our X factor along Wright. If Evans can come in every night, put up some good minutes and fight with other teams big to make it a living hell for 10-15 minutes a game then we will be able to make up for Bargnanis and Turks lack of rebounding and defence. And You guys just remember that Turk is capable if lighting it up any night.

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To get Iggy we would have to give up eith Bosh or Bargnani, and quite frankly I feel uncomfortable trading one of them for iggy because Bosh is beyond Iggy, and Bargnani is slowly exploding to be one of the top centers in the league. Iggy is great, but isn't worth any of thos player. I say we wait it out until the offseason and see what happens. We are going to make the playoffs, and once Calderon is 100% and Evan finally starts to play, we will be looking like a different team. No need to panick people. To be honest, Evans will be our X factor along Wright. If Evans can come in every night, put up some good minutes and fight with other teams big to make it a living hell for 10-15 minutes a game then we will be able to make up for Bargnanis and Turks lack of rebounding and defence. And You guys just remember that Turk is capable if lighting it up any night.

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turk is better and a more valuable player than iggy for this team in every aspect, but i agree with you not making a big move right to an extent but i feel the problem is if reggie comes back and swallows up amirs mins then this might be bad for the young guns and make the team worse...and second of all reggie tries to dominate everyone on the team to much and i feel is like a wana captain so that might create some akwardness between Bosh and make him wana go if theres tension
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turk is better and a more valuable player than iggy for this team in every aspect, but i agree with you not making a big move right to an extent but i feel the problem is if reggie comes back and swallows up amirs mins then this might be bad for the young guns and make the team worse...and second of all reggie tries to dominate everyone on the team to much and i feel is like a wana captain so that might create some akwardness between Bosh and make him wana go if theres tension
bosh will be threatened by Evans?

to anyone suggesting Calderon and wright for Iggy, you clearly are not a philly fan...

maybe it wouldn't cost DD if you were offering an unprotected 1st rounder with Jose and capspace
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why does gaining iggy involve traiding dd? i doubt that bc would give up dd because of the rescent young gun thing going on so if anything were to happen it would make more sense to give jose + antoine wright or rasho
Look at it from Philly's perspective...They'd only be willing to take on Jose if they receive DD and maybe Amir as well. Which I'm all for.
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Look at it from Philly's perspective...They'd only be willing to take on Jose if they receive DD and maybe Amir as well. Which I'm all for.
while moving a bad contract... why else would they shop Iggy?
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:14 PM   #30 (permalink)
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A third team would need to be involved to make things work out.

Philly wants to shed salary, and would need to incude Brand or Daly in the deal.
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:36 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I can't get over the fact that Dalembert/Brand make a combined 27Mil!!

And Dalembert/Iggy/Dalembert= 40Mil

And what's even funnier is, many think that we have unmoveable contracts.
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We've had our chance at landing Iggy... in 2004... when I was screaming at the TV when Hoffa's name was announced instead. Iguodala was absolutely the consensus pick of the analysts and all the forums - and Babcock just had to start his tenure by fucking up royally in his quest to not upset VC by picking an athletic swingman, I guess...

Anyhow, if you actually read the article, the Sixers are trying to dump salary and Iggy would be used as an incentive for Houston to take on something extra in T-Mac dump. As such, we are not in the mix.
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You guys really understimate Jose...way to much. Just saying, once Jose is 100 % you will be praising him again.
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You guys really understimate Jose...way to much. Just saying, once Jose is 100 % you will be praising him again.
I don't. I like him alot actually, but imo he's the most expendable out of.... him, Bargs, Bosh, Hedo. Plus he isn't the kind of PG that works with the type of team BC is trying to build. JMHO
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You guys really understimate Jose...way to much. Just saying, once Jose is 100 % you will be praising him again.
He's great at offence.. we don't really need that right now.

He's shit at defence.. we can't really cover for him right now.

Calderon would be perfect in LA, or Houston or Charlotte where they can defend. He's a great offensive players, but we have a team full of offensive players. Jack/Banks are not more talented than Jose or better basketball players overall... but their defence is what we need in this squad and they are better fits for us. This is why one of Calderon/Turk will have to go. Both of them are good basketball players.
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Jacks D is just as bad as Joses, and Jose is a better offensive weapon.
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Jacks D is just as bad as Joses, and Jose is a better offensive weapon.
Yea I agree. Jack got demolished by Raymond Felton last gamee
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Jacks D is just as bad as Joses, and Jose is a better offensive weapon.
and Jose makes twice as much... it's sometimes about salary cap issues and I wouldn't say Jose is worth twice as much... we need a young pg backup out of the dreaft like most teams do... no more of this two headed crap ...
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Old 01-03-2010, 04:19 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Sorry to bust the bubbles, philly is ina situation where paying these guys to play so poorly has no benefit. IMO they want expirings. I wouldn;t mind seeing either bargs/caldy/turk and obviously banks go in order to get dalembart and iggy to play alongside bosh. (dalembart expires next year.)
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