Smith: Second half of the lottery
Old 03-31-2009, 09:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A whole bunch of people are up in arms because the Raptors may slide back from the No. 8 pick in the draft because (egads!) they are winning games at the moment.

Yeah, like that’s going to make a difference. Check out the past five drafts in the second half of the lottery:

2008

8: Joe Alexander, Milwaukee; 9: D.J. Augustin, Charlotte; 10: Brook Lopez, New Jersey; 11, Jerryd Bayless, Indiana; 12: Jason Thompson, Sacramento; 13: Brandon Rush, Portland; 14: Anthony Randolph, Golden State.

Best pick: Jury’s still out but I’d say Lopez, No. 10.

2007

8: Brandan Wright, Golden State; 9: Joakim Noah, Chicago; 10: Spencer Hawes, Sacramento; 11: Acie Law, Atlanta; 12: Thaddeus Young, Philadelphia; 13: Julian Wright, New Orleans; 14: Al Thornton, L.A. Clippers.

Best pick: Right now? Thornton, No. 14, maybe Young, No. 12.

2006

8: Rudy Gay, Memphis; 9: Patrick O’Bryant, Golden State; 10: Sare Sene, Seattle; 11: J.J. Redick, Orlando; 12: Hilton Armstrong, New Orleans; 13: Thabo Sefolosha, Philadelphia; 14: Ronnie Brewer, Utah.

Best pick: I could make the case it’s Brewer, No. 14, for what he does for the Jazz but I’ll give you Gay, No. 8.

2005

8: Channing Frye, New York; 9: Ike Diogu, Golden State; 10: Andrew Bynum, Lakers; 11: Fran Vazquez, Orlando; 12: Igor Korolev, Clippers; 13: Shawn May, Charlotte; 14: Rashard McCants, Minnesota

Best pick: I guess Bynum, No. 10, if he’s ever able to stay healthy.

2004

8: Rafael Araujo, Toronto; 9: Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia; 10: Luke Jackson, Cleveland; 11: Andris Biedrins, Golden State; 12: Robert Swift, Seattle; 13: Sebastian Telfair, Portland; 14: Kris Humphries, Utah.

Best pick: Guess it has to be Iguodala, No. 9, but there’s lots of love for Biedrins, No. 11, around the league.

So, what’s this tell us?

There can be good players found at any spot in the second half of the lottery; a lot depends on what teams picking ahead of you do, and how good your scouting department is at unearthing good players with late lottery picks.

But we can all agree that it’s more a crapshoot than anything and just because you have No. 8 doesn’t mean you’re going to get a far better player than if you have No. 11 or 12.
Source - Doug Smith's Toronto Raptors blog

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Old 03-31-2009, 09:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Good point, and some of those drafts were considered 'weak'. I also agree a lot of it is a crapshoot.
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Old 03-31-2009, 12:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree with the article... it doesn't matter where you're picking... it's how good your pick is... I shuttered at the last draft class... (2004) If we had a number 8 pick and wasted it on Haffa... I hope the Raptors continue winning so it won't happen again lol
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Old 03-31-2009, 01:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quite suprising the number of quality players found after the 8th pick these last few years, on the other hand there has been twice as many scrubbers who'll do nothing more than warm the bench at best.
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Old 03-31-2009, 07:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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a good friend of mine says one thing, and I agree.

It aint where ya pick, it's who you pick.

The draft is about scouting.

Redwings?
San Antonio?
Devils?

Detroit??

I could keep going, but all of um are successful every year, draft great people late.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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This is why I keep telling people tanking is beyond idiotic. Losing games on purpose hoping that 2 gambles (1. the lottery itself, 2. Player A being better than Player B) pay off.
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Old 03-31-2009, 08:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I like the tank if you're getting #1 or two.

I just don't trust Raptor scouting so much.

And you're right Bjjs, who the hell knows which kid is gonna make the transition well.

You don't know.
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Old 03-31-2009, 10:16 PM   #8 (permalink)
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they're all good but the ones below 8 are better
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