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Old 12-20-2008, 02:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Its from Doug so that mean the Raps are talking to every team but.....


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The last time these guys laid a smelly egg like that one, the GM fired the coach. Well, we know thatís not an option at the moment so Ö

I donít know specifically which GMs heís been talking to most seriously Ė there were some discussions with Chicago, Iím told, and the interest in Marion is there but Iím not sure how far those talks have gone Ė but itís really time for action.

Watching that relatively lifeless performance just affirms that this team needs an infusion of something like heart, hustle, consistent hard work that itís not getting. And, as I mentioned, the season is still salvageable but sometimes a deal for a dealís sake wakes up some people and gets things moving in the right direction.

Up until the loss to the Thunder, I thought Bryan would hold off on any trades to give Jay and these guys a chance to figure it out. But that one loss, and the way it was accomplished, should have had him on the phone in the wee hours of the morning getting serious about his discussions.
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Would love it if Deng, Noah and Noccioni could somehow become Raptors.....
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Deng definitely not...

But I see Nocioni or Thabo coming here which would be great.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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wow i am just waiting to hear the news of a trade......get ready folks this should be a season ending or a new beginning to the season when a trade is pulled offf
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:21 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Nocioni would be fantastic. Just what we need.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Deng definitely not...

But I see Nocioni or Thabo coming here which would be great.
Actually Deng is available from everything I have heard.....Not fitting well with Rose at all.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Actually Deng is available from everything I have heard.....Not fitting well with Rose at all.
From what I hear Deng wouldn't be an upgrade in terms of "heart"... seems like he disappears a lot.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:31 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'd much rather have Nocioni than Deng - the guy brings everything this team lacks.
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'd love to see Noicioni here
He would be great for our wing and can rebound too
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Old 12-20-2008, 02:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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maybe we can get deng for the 3 million BC sold him for :|
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Anthony Parker/Andrea Bargnani (9.8 Mil)

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Andres Nocioni/Thabo Sefolosha (9.93 Mil)

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Calderon/Ukic
Sefolosha/Kapono/Soloman
Nocioni//Graham/Moon/Adams
Bosh/Humphries
JO/Humphries/Voskhul/Jawai
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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^I'm down for that
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Uh, I definitely do not think it's wise to trade 1 chucker for another.

Nocioni is great don't get me wrong, but he's had a bad rep in Chicago as a long range chucker whenever other parts of his game don't work. Bargnani has way more value than simply Noc not to mention that Noc is a pretty serious contract...8 million a year for the next 5...
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:31 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i wouldnt want anyone on the chicago team except if we get deng for scrubs or a decent trade for rose other wise evreyone else can go away
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:35 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Uh, I definitely do not think it's wise to trade 1 chucker for another.

Nocioni is great don't get me wrong, but he's had a bad rep in Chicago as a long range chucker whenever other parts of his game don't work. Bargnani has way more value than simply Noc not to mention that Noc is a pretty serious contract...8 million a year for the next 5...
Damn that contract is hefty
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i wouldnt want anyone on the chicago team except if we get deng for scrubs or a decent trade for rose other wise evreyone else can go away
Most of there SF/SG players would be an upgrade for us.
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Old 12-20-2008, 03:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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JO/Parker/Moon for Hinrich/Hughes/Thabo/Noah. Then move Jose for wings like Outlaw/Webster. Now we have Ukic, Outlaw, Webster, Thabo, Graham, Bargs, Noah as young depth, and Hinrich, Hughes, Bosh as more solidifed big piece. Our starting lineup is just as good and now we're one of the most deep teams in the league and have balance and future if we have to blow things up.

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Old 12-20-2008, 04:04 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Cant see them giving up Hughes with JO coming in, but Gooden may be available as well. as Chicago is growing enamored with Noah and Thomas

JO,Joey and AP

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Gooden, Deng, Noccioni, hinrich

Jose/Hinrich
Deng/Kaps
Noccioni/Moon
Bosh/Hump
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I don't know why everyones so eager to throw away this JO contract.

The ONLY way we trade him to Chicago is for Gooden, Deng, Thabo and Noah

Unless the Raptors rip them off theres no reason to trade that 22 million dollar contract away a year before the biggest free agent offseason arguably in sports history,
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I don't know why everyones so eager to throw away this JO contract.

The ONLY way we trade him to Chicago is for Gooden, Deng, Thabo and Noah

Unless the Raptors rip them off theres no reason to trade that 22 million dollar contract away a year before the biggest free agent offseason arguably in sports history,
Couls get kirk in that deal as well though.
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:15 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I just put in Hughes as a financial fit and it still gives us a big expiring in 2010. Hughes might honestly be easier to move next year because 22 mil of contract is a LOT in JO's case, not every rebuilding team can come up with a package for that

Chicago would love to have to dump Hinrich's contract for JO's expiring, if they have lots of cap room considering they have Derrick Rose and a big market, they'd guarantee Bosh or Amare or something. Only concern would be that after doing this, they won't be able to sign Gordon, though you have to ask if you really want him for the 11 mil a year or something he'll be getting. Also if Rose is really this special, the combo of him, Deng, and JO could be good by like next year

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