Smith: Draft Considered a Failure If Raps Take a PG at #9
Old 06-23-2009, 11:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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As much as I love Flynn, it pains me to say that I actually agree with Smith for a change.

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Can I just say this about the draft on Thursday night since we’re all focusing on who they take and why.

I would consider it a failure if all they came away with at the No. 9 spot was a backup point guard.

Yes, this is a draft deep in them and there are some good ones. But the holes on this roster are many and they are at the two and three and using the top pick they’ve currently got on someone they know has no chance at starting seems, to me, to be a bad decision.

Of course, Bryan doesn’t usually ask my advice or seek my counsel but what the heck, I better offer it anyway.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:27 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Just draft Holiday he can play the 2, kthxbai.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:29 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I don't think it would be a failure, but it's true that it wouldn't address a big need for the team. Still, you would hate to pass up a good player when drafting for position.
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i kind of agree but i kind of don't
if we draft a PG it doesn't mean he's a backup, it might mean he's a backup this year, but it might also mean he's expected to be a replacement/upgrade to jose in the future
and frankly, if there's someone better than jose in the draft i'm all for him because jose will never develop any sort of defensive game and his offensive game is kind of limited to the play calls and no creativity
but i would consider it a failure because PG isn't the position we really need to be drafting for
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I would think it is a failure unless we acquire a second pick and take a SG with that. If we don't then I would want a SG
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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its a PG heavy draft
does Smith want us to reach?
BPA

Smith isn't the GM, so I won't worry
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I agree, but only to a point. It all depends on what Brian plans on doing through FA/trades this summer. Especially what he sees happening with Marion/AP. The fact is if he has plans on getting a SG through FA and then S&T Marion for a starter, then i don't mind us getting Flynn. Ultimately i would like them to get Holiday because he's a combo over Flynn if they want a PG. Either way though, i think we're getting a wing player thursday night, and then we're gonna likely get a PG if we get a 2nd pick (18-25)
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IMO a back up PG is the least of this teams worries. so why would you use your pick on that?
going into the offseason we had 3 glaring holes - Wing position, Rebounding, Defense.
in acquiring Evans, we've improved our rebounding and defense, so I would be willing to look past those 2 categories on draft night. but that leaves us with our number one hole – the wing position.
we have no one locked to a contract in either SG/SF… and worse, other than Marion, none of the players we are able to re-sign are quality starters.
we are in desperate need of a solid player at that position.
BC needs to correct this problem ASAP.
why waste the pick on a PG, and backup at that? Jose is solid, Roko will learn, why give up on these two so fast? give Jose a little rest and if he’s healthy come next season – he will be fantastic. it would be foolish to add a player to a position where we’re already covered for years to come. the only way we should select Flynn is if he was going to be a superstar… and he is not.
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Jose is solid, Roko will learn, why give up on these two so fast?.
He would only be giving up on Roko! Which is smart imo. But i prefer then getting a PG lower in the draft with a second pick. The fact is there will be a decent PG still available somewhere between 18-25.
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Old 06-23-2009, 12:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I agree, but only to a point. It all depends on what Brian plans on doing through FA/trades this summer. Especially what he sees happening with Marion/AP. The fact is if he has plans on getting a SG through FA and then S&T Marion for a starter, then i don't mind us getting Flynn. Ultimately i would like them to get Holiday because he's a combo over Flynn if they want a PG. Either way though, i think we're getting a wing player thursday night, and then we're gonna likely get a PG if we get a 2nd pick (18-25)
Holliday's a talented dude but I don't think he fits with what this team needs. Assuming we only have one pick, using that pick to address a spot where we already have a glut of players, and not using that pick to address a spot that has traditionally been very weak for us would be a waste. We don't need a back up point guard, so essentially, Holliday would be focusing on playing the two. But Holliday isn't as effective when he doesn't have the ball in his hands, so we'd have kind of an impasse with Holliday.

If anything, use the pick to draft a wing player, grab another pick and snag a point guard. Best case scenario for me.
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the only way we should select Flynn is if he was going to be a superstarů and he is not.
But who could we pick @ #9 that's going to be a superstar?
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BPA should work in tiers. If yo,u have Flynn, Holliday Derozan, Henderson as relatively equal ranked prospects on your list, then you pick them apart by team need. The only way we should pick Flynn is if we think he's a significantly better prospect than the others... which he's not.

Brandon Jennings on the other hand I would seriously consider at 9
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Plus there's a ton of backup PGs we can get with a 2nd pick like Eric Maynor and Patrick Mills
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If DeRozan and Evans are off the board I'd take Flynn and prep Roko to play SG.

Considering the fact we might lose Parker to the Euroleague, Roko could be used to back-up Delfino (and we would likely use Parker's money to re-sign Graham to back-up Marion).
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Plus there's a ton of backup PGs we can get with a 2nd pick like Eric Maynor and Patrick Mills
But Flynn has CP3 written all over. He's gonna be a stud! Plus, we need a "change of pace" back-up PG and he'd be a perfect compliment to Jose's style.
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Flynn has TJ Ford written all over him
closest thing to CP3 is Ty Lawson
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Flynn has TJ Ford written all over him
closest thing to CP3 is Ty Lawson
agreed.
Ty Lawson is a beast.
i'm hoping we can somehow get a second pick and we grab him.
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That's the thing.

I'd rather get a pick from 20-30 and grab a Teague, Maynor, Lawson, or Rodrigue Beaubois.

There are a lot of good point guards in this draft, we should use our 9th pick to get a 2 or 3.
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That's the thing.

I'd rather get a pick from 20-30 and grab a Teague, Maynor, Lawson, or Rodrigue Beaubois.
And they say it's a weak draft.
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agreed.
Ty Lawson is a beast.
i'm hoping we can somehow get a second pick and we grab him.
Lawson won't fall past 17, but thats just me
Mil/PHX/Philly will take a look at him
the 2nd pick people are talking about is around 20
only Mills, Colison, Maynor are possibilities
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