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Old 02-05-2009, 12:30 PM   #41 (permalink)
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nobody cares about TJ anymore. And nobody cheers against Bosh when he has a good game, so it's not the same thing. Of course true fans (of the team, and not of CB4) will get pissed when he lays a donut and has more turnovers than made baskets. When he plays good, you'll not find many boobirds.
i'm talking about TJ as a raptor. well over half the fans wanted to see him struggle so jose could be on the floor. same thing with sam, they wanted to see him fail so he would be fired. as for your true fans of the raptors, i see Bosh having a lot of great games and being criticized for the things out of his hands.
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Old 02-05-2009, 01:21 PM   #42 (permalink)
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i'm talking about TJ as a raptor. well over half the fans wanted to see him struggle so jose could be on the floor.
still not the same thing, those who wanted to see Jose on the floor believed that Jose can do a better job for the team than TJ ( I should know, I was one of them). I love jose but I would trade him for derrick rose in a second - there is no player on this roster that I care about more than the team.
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same thing with sam, they wanted to see him fail so he would be fired.
same thing - most people didn't believe Sam is the right coach for us, and would wanted to see him replaced by a real coach (and I don't mean triano) - all with the hope that the short term pain will translate in long term gain with the new coach.
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as for your true fans of the raptors, i see Bosh having a lot of great games and being criticized for the things out of his hands.
like what?
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:56 AM   #43 (permalink)
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still not the same thing, those who wanted to see Jose on the floor believed that Jose can do a better job for the team than TJ ( I should know, I was one of them). I love jose but I would trade him for derrick rose in a second - there is no player on this roster that I care about more than the team.
fans can believe whatever they want, and for the most part, they don't know what they are talking about. tj was a main element to us becoming a respectable team. people like yourself painted him to be both selfish and a cancer to the team. for the simple fact that fans, like yourself, couldn't recognize our strength and made it a fan favourite issue clearly makes it NOT about the team.

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same thing - most people didn't believe Sam is the right coach for us, and would wanted to see him replaced by a real coach (and I don't mean triano) - all with the hope that the short term pain will translate in long term gain with the new coach.
does that explain all the criticism? no it doesn't.

does that explain the oversight to our teams over-all talent? no it doesn't.

bottom-line is that the people who recognized that our team was overachieving wanted sam to remain our coach. we are not so blind.

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like what?
shall i refer you to the twenty on-going chris Bosh threads? or how about game threads where he's constantly called a pussy and criticized for not taking it to the hole when he has four ready defenders waiting on his first move. actually, lets talk about whether he's a franchise player or not! thats a winner!

i swear you'd float away if you held your breathe for ten seconds.
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:41 PM   #44 (permalink)
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there is no way you can argue that being happy that we're losing (because it proves a point) is done in the best interest of the team. I would understand wanting the team to fail because you believe that Triano is a bad coach, and we'd be better off. Even if you are right, and Sam was making us overachieve (as ridiculous of a concept as it is), that ship has sailed. Sam is not coming back, so you have no reason to be happy that we're losing ... unless you want a high lottery pick.

as far as bosh, you claimed that he is criticized when he plays well, not that he's criticized in general. We all know his weaknesses, he's underpowered, not a great defender and easily intimidated by physical defenders. That's not criticism, that's a fact - I hope you agree with that.
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:50 PM   #45 (permalink)
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moremilk - you make my head hurt.
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Jackson, I'm curious, are you not just "a fan"?

Do you feel personally that you are so much more informed than everyone here that you have some entitlement to dismiss another guys opinion concerning Bosh?


Are there no arguments that can be made that although Bosh is a wonderful player, he isn't in the upper stratosphere of impact players in the game, and that "Franchise" is a name givin to the best player on any givin team, but that there are truly only about 10 real "Franchise players" in the entire league using the strict guidlines most like to use.

Do you really believe, as some seem to, that a team Over achieves for 82 games?

If a collection of guy splays 82, and wins 41, are they not a 41 win team?

If that same team changes th eline up, and the chemistry produces 47 wins, does that team not become a 47 win team? Can the opposite hold true, and a team become a 30 win team?

Is it even relevent, if a fan decides to use the terms under or over achieving? Honestly, is not the new team, which is the only thing the fan has to really compare the old one too, just a new team all in its own, playing new games in a new year, making it completely invalid to compare the two as identical test subjects in order to prove some sort of wild statistical anomaly in the proceding year, that in some way labeled that team as experiencing an unven amount of either wins or losses?

Do you have another more mystic way of coming to these conclusions?

Or, are you yourself just a few healthy days away from floating away yourself?

Hmm?

I don't mind your opinions one way or another, they are yours, and thats cool, I just wonder how you arrive at them so adamantly that you can state them with such absolution, and dismiss Moremilk's as if they were the words of a small, idiot child.
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:20 PM   #47 (permalink)
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i didn't dismiss moremilks words like some idiot child. i dismissed moremilk's words like someone who constantly changes the direction of the conversation to avoid what's being talked about.

at times i do feel that i'm informed a little more concerning bosh

are you ready for it

he's not superman

he's not batman

he's not jesus

he's not tim duncan

he's not kevin garnett

he's not a guard who can breakdown the defense

what he is, is our best player! a damn good one at that. people put a name on him and they expect everything from him. for the simple fact that i can recognize what should be expected from one player, at times i do feel maybe just a little more informed or realistic.

overachieving is just a term - but one used when a team exceeds expectations.
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Just askin'.

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moremilk's words like someone who constantly changes the direction of the conversation to avoid what's being talked about.
Moremilk does that!?!?! Noooo...
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It looks like Sam is being considered by Timberwolves as head coach. Good luck Sam
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oh god, feel real bad for Big Al right about now. First they trade a star-to-be for an under-sized shooting bigman that plays the same position as him. Second, he plays in Minnesota, a small market thats colder than Canada put together. And now they want Smitch as their head coach! Will it ever end!
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kevin love is awesome. i'd much rather him than oj mayo. if corey brewer turns out okay, they're gonna have one hell of a team in a couple of years.
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Are you serious! you'd rather have Love over Mayo!

Mayo is going to be compared to MJ, no, MJ will be compared to OJ

Do a forum wide vote, i guarentee Mayo will come out on top.
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Are you serious! you'd rather have Love over Mayo!

Mayo is going to be compared to MJ, no, MJ will be compared to OJ

Do a forum wide vote, i guarentee Mayo will come out on top.
It would look something like this:

18 and below would vote for Mayo mostly

Those 19 and above would vote for Love mostly.

Love's a fundamentally sound big man, who doesn't get much attention from the US media. Brewer needs to learn how to shoot. If they ever get a PG on that squad (Hinrich?), they'll be very dangerous. McHale is doing a good job of rebuilding them.
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And we'll see that McHale did a good job when the Wolves beat the Raps
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Comon people! tell the man the OJ is better than Love
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