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Old 09-25-2009, 02:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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In order to stem the tide in this longgg off-season, I have decided to take a look at all the teams in the NBA and give them a value based on the talent of the player’s on their team. Each player will be assigned a number based on their play last season. We’ll add up each individuals number and get a number for the team. This week we’re looking at the Atlantic Division.

Here’s how the individual player scoring system breaks down:

5 = All-NBA performers. Bonafide stars in this league. Franchise players.
4 = All-Stars. Just a step below level 5 players, but could get there.
3 = Solid 2nd and 3rd options on all NBA teams. May be All-Stars in future or have been in past.
2 = A player that fulfills his role sufficiently.
1 = Doesn’t bring much to the table. There are people better than him for his particular job.

That’s the basic thought process going behind these guys. These are not projections either, these are the numbers that I feel these players were last season (only rookies will be based on projection). I’m going to only offer up what I feel to be the top 8 players for each team for the 2009-2010 season.

This week we’re going to look at the Atlantic Division:

Boston Celtics = 24

Paul Pierce – 5
Kevin Garnett – 4
Ray Allen – 4
Rajon Rondo – 3
Kendrick Perkins – 2
Rasheed Wallace – 2
Glen Davis – 2
Eddie House – 2

New jersey Nets = 18

Devin Harris – 4
Brook Lopez – 3
Courtney Lee – 2
Yi Jianlian – 2
Terrence Williams – 2
Keyon Dooling - 2
Chris Douglas Roberts – 2
Bobby Simmons – 1

New York Knicks = 17

David Lee – 3
Nate Robinson – 3
Al Harrington – 3
Wilson Chandler – 2
Danilo Gallinari – 2
Jordan Hill - 2
Larry Hughes – 1
Chris Duhon – 1

Philadelphia 76ers = 19

Andre Iguodala – 3
Thaddeus Young – 3
Elton Brand – 3
Louis Williams – 2
Samuel Dalembert – 2
Marreese Speights – 2
Kareem Rush – 1
Jrue Holliday – 1

Toronto Raptors = 17

Chris Bosh – 4
Hedo Turkoglu – 3
Jose Calderon – 3
Andrea Barnagni – 2
Jarrett Jack – 2
Rasho Nesterovic – 1
Joey Graham – 1
Marco Belinelli – 1
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as usual Charles worries about individual player and their individual skills rather than how a team meshes or plays together.
whatever, Charles is a knucklehead.
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even though I don't like the make up of a team this point system doesn't determine wins
Im sure the Grizz and Clips would have high scores based on individual talent but as a team they won't make the playoffs
you have to add coaching staff + management + players
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Haha somebody needs to send Chuck a memo on Joey G. Guys like DeMar DeRozan aren't significant or would that "2" hurt what he was trying to prove here? Maybe he should actually pay attention to what's been going on before he speaks? Wait---That never stopped him in the past.

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doesn't take Wright into account, I guess he's Joey

and the wild card..........Banks.........I mean DeMar
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DeMar and Wright are certainly 2's but again that would foil the whole thing he was trying to say very unscientifically.

Jersey is going to suck. They're not better than the Knicks or Raptors.
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Haha somebody needs to send Chuck a memo on Joey G. Guys like DeMar DeRozan aren't significant or would that "2" hurt what he was trying to prove here? Maybe he should actually pay attention to what's been going on before he speaks? Wait---That never stopped him in the past.
Maybe you should pay attention before you speak?

Each player will be assigned a number based on their play last season.

Players are rated on their play from LAST YEAR. How exactly did DeRozan perform last year?

Did you read the player rosters and find any other rookies??

Yeah the Graham thing was an oversight but it doesn't surprise me that Boston is miles ahead of the rest of the teams. 3 all stars and a talented, proven deep bench. While unscientific, this theory does illustrate my point from the whole Banks for Carroll debacle that good teams have good players top to bottom.
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as usual Charles worries about individual player and their individual skills rather than how a team meshes or plays together.
whatever, Charles is a knucklehead.
This is not really Charles Barkley, it's just the name of the site.

These rankings are hot garbage. Pierce and Bosh should be the same number, either 4 or 5. Also, Rasho is a 2 and Bargnani is arguably a 3. Then, switch Joey Graham with Reggie Evans, who is a 2.
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HA. WE are rated lower then Philly and NJ.
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HA. WE are rated lower then Philly and NJ.
but we're tied with the Knicks, that should be good enough
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but we're tied with the Knicks, that should be good enough
That makes this article even worse
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Maybe you should pay attention before you speak?

Each player will be assigned a number based on their play last season.

Players are rated on their play from LAST YEAR. How exactly did DeRozan perform last year?

Did you read the player rosters and find any other rookies??

Yeah the Graham thing was an oversight but it doesn't surprise me that Boston is miles ahead of the rest of the teams. 3 all stars and a talented, proven deep bench. While unscientific, this theory does illustrate my point from the whole Banks for Carroll debacle that good teams have good players top to bottom.
actually you should read it again he said top 8 players and that he might include rookies based on his specualtion.


i still don't understand what he just did their, but, it seemd pretty insignificant.
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actually you should read it again he said top 8 players and that he might include rookies based on his specualtion.
You got me
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Chris Bosh – 5
Hedo Turkoglu – 4
Jose Calderon – 3
Andrea Barnagni – 3
Jarrett Jack – 3
Rasho Nesterovic – 2
Joey Graham – 2
Marco Belinelli – 3

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Players are rated on their play from LAST YEAR. How exactly did DeRozan perform last year?
Watch a damn college game? That's one idea.
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SJ is closer,

Bosh-4
Hedo-4
Jose-3
Bargs-3
Jack-2
Belli-2
Rasho-2
Evans-2
Total:22
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Watch a damn college game? That's one idea.
Did that work with Hoffa?
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