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Old 03-24-2011, 05:36 PM   #41 (permalink)
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It kills me to see everyone hate on Bargnani, sure, he may lack intensity but on the right team he'd be deadly, specifically one where he doesn't have to man the middle or be counted on for most of the scoring load. On this team though, he looks bad.
on a good team, he would get benched for not playing defence, being too soft, not caring, etc

on this team though, he doesn't get benched
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Old 03-24-2011, 06:01 PM   #42 (permalink)
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on a good team, he would get benched for not playing defence, being too soft, not caring, etc

on this team though, he doesn't get benched
like Hedo gets benched? like Boozer gets benched? give me a break. so much hate.

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like Hedo gets benched? like Boozer gets benched? give me a break. so much hate.
hedo started this season starting for the suns, then the results weren't as expected and he ended up coming off the bench playing around 20 min per. getting traded to the magic made him care again and he clearing put in the effort that was missing while with the suns and raps.
as for boozer, i don't know where that came from...and i don't know wth ur talking about. theres was an incident earlier this year when thibo bench boozer in the 4th and it was a close game and the bulls ended up losing. it was big news....

PS: i don't know how anyone can constantly defend Bargnani as a basketball player. its one thing to defend the notion of not trading him, when people are always calling out to trade him, cuz currently we wouldn't get a good return for him and we're stuck with him blah blah blah....i get that. thats reasonable. but to actually defend him as a player who doesn't give a shit is something i don't get that. how can you say ur a supporter of bargnani?
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Old 03-24-2011, 08:56 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Bargnani is one of the elite scorers in the game. Honestly, if he goes, there is nothing left in Toronto.

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Old 03-24-2011, 08:59 PM   #45 (permalink)
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hedo started this season starting for the suns, then the results weren't as expected and he ended up coming off the bench playing around 20 min per. getting traded to the magic made him care again and he clearing put in the effort that was missing while with the suns and raps.
as for boozer, i don't know where that came from...and i don't know wth ur talking about. theres was an incident earlier this year when thibo bench boozer in the 4th and it was a close game and the bulls ended up losing. it was big news....

PS: i don't know how anyone can constantly defend Bargnani as a basketball player. its one thing to defend the notion of not trading him, when people are always calling out to trade him, cuz currently we wouldn't get a good return for him and we're stuck with him blah blah blah....i get that. thats reasonable. but to actually defend him as a player who doesn't give a shit is something i don't get that. how can you say ur a supporter of bargnani?
how can one be a raptor fan and constantly be bitching about everything they hate about a team?

Sometimes it's ok to look at the positive side of things. Just because you can't see them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Plenty of teams would take AB on their team.... are they idiots?
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Bargnani is one of the elite scorers in the game. Honestly, if he goes, there is nothing left in Toronto.

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is unintelligent. w/o Bargnani we have davis, Demar, Amir, JJ, even bayless to look forward to. we havent had a young core with future since the early rap days. its just a matter of looking ahead, not whats currently in front of you
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:07 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Bargnani is one of the elite scorers in the game. Honestly, if he goes, there is nothing left in Toronto.

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He's inconsistent even on offense. In every other part of the game he's unbelievably inconsistent. The fact is he's often not that effecient on the offensive end, he's shooting pretty poorly this season. Sorry but Bargnani is not an elite scorer.
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Bargnani is one of the elite scorers in the game. Honestly, if he goes, there is nothing left in Toronto.

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i have a problem with that statement, but i don't want to get into that.
but no where did i say i wanted him gone
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how can one be a raptor fan and constantly be bitching about everything they hate about a team?

Sometimes it's ok to look at the positive side of things. Just because you can't see them, doesn't mean they don't exist. Plenty of teams would take AB on their team.... are they idiots?
i don't know about constantly bitching about EVERYTHING...bargnani and sometimes jose are the only things i bitch about. i've defended triano and weems and i'm a derozan supporter since DAY ONE.

and its because i'm a raptor fan so Bargnani pisses me off. you invest so much time and emotion into ur team and to see a member of the team not care, doesn't that tick you off??

right?
if i was a laker fan i could give a shit about Bargnani and him not reaching his potential
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I still want him gone.

Like Hedo and VC before him it's going to be "addition by subtraction".
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I still want him gone.

Like Hedo and VC before him it's going to be "addition by subtraction".
subtracting vince was the beginning of the downward spiral... in my opinion.

we haven't had a franchise player since.
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:40 PM   #52 (permalink)
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subtracting vince was the beginning of the downward spiral... in my opinion.

we haven't had a franchise player since.
Bosh was as much a franchise player as Vince was.

Vince just had a better cast for a few years.
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:26 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Bosh was as much a franchise player as Vince was.

Vince just had a better cast for a few years.
LOL..........ya okay............
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Old 03-24-2011, 11:31 PM   #54 (permalink)
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tanking is not the right thing to do (EVER) I don't want the team to move.

Bargnani played a lot better when he trained with JO a couple of years back. I think management and coaching is the reason for his akward play the past couple seasons. Could you imagine him playing for Phil Jackson, I bet he'd figure out the proper way to utilize him.
ya off the bench or as a warmer. you've seen what the zen did to sasha, he was a good scorer but contributed nothing on defense so he had to sit.
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is unintelligent. w/o Bargnani we have davis, Demar, Amir, JJ, even bayless to look forward to. we havent had a young core with future since the early rap days. its just a matter of looking ahead, not whats currently in front of you
I'm sure you didn't just call me stupid.

Keep one thing in mind. Young doesn't = Good.

Toronto has ok young players. No stars.

Bargnani is virtually unstoppable at times. CLEARLY he has motivation issues, but anyone here that thinks he's a bad player is not all that bright.

I pay attention to what opposition says. yes they rip his defence, they also give total props to his ability to mess them p on offence. Why do you think the other stiffs YES STIFFS on this team get any room at all when he's on the floor????
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i don't know about constantly bitching about EVERYTHING...bargnani and sometimes jose are the only things i bitch about. i've defended triano and weems and i'm a derozan supporter since DAY ONE.

and its because i'm a raptor fan so Bargnani pisses me off. you invest so much time and emotion into ur team and to see a member of the team not care, doesn't that tick you off??

right?
if i was a laker fan i could give a shit about Bargnani and him not reaching his potential
I think it's good to bitch Panda.

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I still want him gone.

Like Hedo and VC before him it's going to be "addition by subtraction".
Sure. If you can get something really good coming back.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:50 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Bargnani is one of the elite scorers in the game. Honestly, if he goes, there is nothing left in Toronto.

Careful what a wish for.
No, he's not. He just gets his points because he always gets the ball and chucks up shots. He's still a good/very good scorer but that gets completely negated with his atrocious defense and the fact he can't rebound to save his life. He never hustles or even gives full effort. He just stands around and coasts.

He never steps up in a big or important situation, brings no leadership despite being one of the veterans of this team (yes he is a veteran despite his age, he's been around here for a while and is supposedly a #1 option).

Toronto Raptors needs to start building the right way and that's with getting 2-way players, guys that can score and play some defense.

I don't completely blame him though, he is playing in a terrible situation. He is not a center and shouldn't be playing there. He would be a good fit on a team like Orlando though where a center like Howard can cover his defensive deficiencies and lack of rebounding.

I want him gone this off-season.
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Old 03-25-2011, 01:50 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Bargnani isn't a super elite scorer.. wtf? lmao

he's the most versatile big man on offence aside from Dirk, but he is far from an elite scorer, or an efficient one
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Old 03-25-2011, 01:54 PM   #60 (permalink)
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i'd love to see a list of guys that score 20+ per game and makes less than $11 mil per. and i'd love to look at that list and see how many of those guys are 2-way players with a varied skill set.
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