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Carlito Caliente 02-29-2012 10:42 PM

Shumpert for DeRozan?
 
The Knicks really lucked out with Shumpert, the kid can play....solid SOLID defensive player with a knack for scoring. His defensive efforts really showed tonight against the Cavs

Shumpert first caught my attention when he played Derozan in the summer impact league:


would you trade Derozan for Shumpert?


I WOULD!!!

jeffb 02-29-2012 10:44 PM

Last year it was Fields this year it's shumpert....whatever!

Dark Knight 02-29-2012 10:45 PM

Been saying this since the Draft. Shumpert can play.

Wouldn't give him up for DeRozan though.

MrClutch 02-29-2012 10:46 PM

still keeping derozan, we have a guy like shumpert and his name is james johnson

carp 02-29-2012 10:48 PM

Shump isn't as good as advertised..... but he's a nice young player to have for cheap.

MrClutch 02-29-2012 10:49 PM

knicks are going to need his defense in the playoffs

Carlito Caliente 02-29-2012 10:56 PM

we r dying for defense on this team....and Emar Erozan has been showing no D at all, heck not even O at times!

James Johnson is more shot blocking type of TEAM defense, Shumpert is more on-the-ball man to man defense capable of shutting down an opposing team's PG or SG.

carp 02-29-2012 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlito Caliente (Post 621437)
we r dying for defense on this team....and Emar Erozan has been showing no D at all, heck not even O at times!

James Johnson is more shot blocking type of TEAM defense, Shumpert is more on-the-ball man to man defense capable of shutting down an opposing team's PG or SG.

I'd give up Bayless for him.

fk24 02-29-2012 11:09 PM

I think good man to man D is somewhat overrated. You can be the best man defender in the NBA but if your apart of the worst team at help defense you'll look bad.

Carlito Caliente 02-29-2012 11:25 PM

no one wants Bayless.....

man to man D can translate to team D, you just need someone to hustle and bring energy to the team to ignite team defense. anyone can play D, it's just a matter of how bad you want it. If Derozan plays solid D i bet there would be more of an effort on the team to match his energy along with James and Amir Johnson's hustle. It's infectious.....the Knicks were down 17 pts at one point of the game tonight against the Cavs. It was the bench led by Shumpert/Jeffries on D and Baron/Novak on O who rallied all the way back to win the game

Shifty.py 03-01-2012 01:30 AM

How about Ed Davis for Shumpert? I'd do that

Kuzzy 03-01-2012 02:12 AM

Both are pretty insignificant SGs in the league w/e

Toby 03-01-2012 02:48 AM

DeRozan is way better then Shumpert

ClutchCity 03-01-2012 02:52 AM

Emar Erozan LOL

INSIDER 03-01-2012 10:15 AM

i wouldnt touch Shumpert.
sure he's got good Defense, but the guy is a chucker. His IQ and shot selection are horrendous.
watch the next NY game that is televised and watch his decision making... he jacks up ridiculous shots and kills any flow the offense has.

carp 03-01-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlito Caliente (Post 621437)
we r dying for defense on this team....and Emar Erozan has been showing no D at all, heck not even O at times!

James Johnson is more shot blocking type of TEAM defense, Shumpert is more on-the-ball man to man defense capable of shutting down an opposing team's PG or SG.

I love that this is catching on but I really wish he'd improve his defensive intensity.... heck, I wish he'd improve his offensive intensity.

moremilk 03-01-2012 01:47 PM

derozan is much better, shumpert is a good defender, but right now he's probably not a rotation player on a good team, unless they lack depth badly

TORaptor4Ever 03-01-2012 01:49 PM

Shump's a specialist right now... still has a way's to go before he's truly a starting 2.

INSIDER 03-01-2012 01:53 PM

a specialist of what? chucking?

TORaptor4Ever 03-01-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 621592)
a specialist of what? chucking?

Defensive specialist. He's among the league leaders in STLs and is pretty darn good at holding down his man 1-on-1.


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