Should 2013 be our year?
Old 07-09-2012, 03:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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It was bad enough with just Miami in the east, but at least there was some hope we could eventually be like a top 3 team in the East. If Dwight Howard joins the Nets, it's over (I don't mind that anymore because I'm sick and tired of seeing Miami walking to the nba finals). Boston will have another year or two, Brooklyn will be good long-term with Miami. There's a lot of young teams that are only going to get better. Rather than have our current team plus a Batum or Gay and mess up our cap space, i'll take it easy. Hopefully we finish the year 9th or 10th and give Houston a bad lottery pick thats like 13th 14th. Don't give any long-term contracts to anyone this offseason. Try to clear up as much cap as possible for 2013 free agency (trade Kleiza for expiring, amnesty Amir in 2013, etc) and sign like 2 max free agents: Iggy and Harden or Evans while at the same time keeping our existing young assets who we can re-sign or use in sign and trades for other role players to fill out our roster. I think Lowry has a lot of upside and has the potential to make the all-star team as a reserve one day. We have to take advantage of his low cap hit in 2013: he's only making 6 million or so. Bargnani is only making around 11 million for 2013. Ed Davis and Valancunas about 3 million, T Ross about 2.5.
Bargs, Lowry, Valancunas, Ross combined are only going to be making like 22 million. After 2013 and later all of them are going to be in for a big raise. We can retain all 4 of them and sign two max players while at the same time use DeRozan, James Johnson in sign and trades for assets; more so DeRozan. We can get a Batum by paying 13 14 million or a Gay this year via trade and definitely become a better team. But I'd rather be patient, have these young guys get another year under their belt contending for the eighth spot, evaluate our current roster who fits and doesn't, clear space, and make a run for 2 big free agents in 2013 before Lowry and others get their raise.

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Monta Ellis, Milwaukee Bucks – $11.0 million – Early Termination Option ($11.0 million)
Andre Iguodala, Philadelphia 76ers – $14.7 million – Early Termination Option ($15.9 million)
Tyreke Evans, Sacramento Kings – $5.3 million – Restricted ($6.9 million Qualifying Offer)
Kevin Martin, Houston Rockets – $12.4 million – Unrestricted
James Harden, Oklahoma City Thunder – $5.8 million – Restricted ($7.6 million Qualifying Offer)
DeMar DeRozan, Toronto Raptors – $3.3 million – Restricted ($4.5 million Qualifying Offer)
Evan Turner, Philadelphia 76ers – $5.2 million – Team Option ($6.7 million)
Jordan Crawford, Washington Wizards – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
Ben Gordon, Detroit Pistons – $12.4 million – Player Option ($13.2 million)
Manu Ginobili, San Antonio Spurs – $14.1 million – Unrestricted
MarShon Brooks, Brooklyn Nets – $1.2 million – Team Option ($1.2 million)
Alec Burks, Utah Jazz – $2.1 million – Team Option ($2.2 million)
Corey Maggette, Charlotte Bobcats - $10.9 million – Unrestricted
Tony Allen, Memphis Grizzlies – $3.3 million – Unrestricted
Iman Shumpert, New York Knicks – $1.6 million – Team Option ($1.7 million)
J.J. Redick, Orlando Magic – $6.2 million – Unrestricted
Stephen Jackson, San Antonio Spurs – $10.1 million – Unrestricted
Mike Dunleavy, Milwaukee Bucks – $3.8 million – Unrestricted
Anthony Morrow, Brooklyn Nets – $4.0 million – Unrestricted
Daequan Cook, Oklahoma City Thunder – $3.1 million – Unrestricted
Klay Thompson, Golden State Warriors – $2.2 million – Team Option ($2.3 million)
Ronnie Brewer, Chicago Bulls – $4.4 million – Unrestricted
Gerald Henderson, Charlotte Bobcats – $3.1 million – Restricted ($4.3 million Qualifying Offer)
Gary Neal, San Antonio Spurs – $0.9 million – Unrestricted*
Corey Brewer, Denver Nuggets – $2.7 million – Unrestricted
Gary Forbes, Toronto Raptors – $1.5 million – Unrestricted
Reggie Williams, Charlotte Bobcats – $2.5 million – Unrestricted
Jimmer Fredette, Sacramento Kings – $2.3 million – Team Option ($2.4 million)
Jimmy Butler, Chicago Bulls – $1.1 million – Team Option ($1.1 million)
Christian Eyenga, L.A. Lakers – $1.1 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
Wayne Ellington, Minnesota Timberwolves – $2.1 million – Restricted ($3.1 million Qualifying Offer)
Avery Bradley, Boston Celtics – $1.6 million – Team Option ($2.5 million)
Xavier Henry, New Orleans Hornets – $2.3 million – Team Option ($3.2 million)
Dominique Jones, Dallas Mavericks – $1.3 million – Team Option ($2.3 million)
Martell Webster, Minnesota Timberwolves – $5.7 million – Unrestricted
Raja Bell, Utah Jazz – $3.5 million – Unrestricted
Francisco Garcia, Sacramento Kings – $6.1 million – Team Option ($6.4 million)
Lazar Hayward, Oklahoma City Thunder – $1.2 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
Elliot Williams, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.4 million – Team Option ($2.4 million)
Quentin Richardson, Orlando Magic – $2.6 million – Player Option ($2.8 million)
Charles Jenkins, Golden State Warriors – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
Josh Selby, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.8 million – Team Option ($0.9 million)
Lester Hudson, Memphis Grizzlies – $0.9 million – Unrestricted

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Josh Smith, Atlanta Hawks – $13.2 million – Unrestricted
Paul George, Indiana Pacers – $2.6 million – Team Option ($3.3 million)
Derrick Williams, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.8 million – Team Option ($5.0 million)
Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.8 million)
Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio Spurs – $1.8 million – Team Option ($1.9 million)
Wesley Johnson, Minnesota Timberwolves – $4.3 million – Team Option ($5.4 million)
Shawn Marion, Dallas Mavericks – $8.4 million – Early Termination Option ($9.1 million)
Dorrell Wright, Golden State Warriors – $4.1 million – Unrestricted
Jan Vesely, Washington Wizards – $3.2 million – Team Option ($3.3 million)
Linas Kleiza, Toronto Raptors – $4.6 million – Player Option ($4.6 million)
Richard Jefferson, Golden State Warriors – $10.2 million – Player Option ($11.1 million)
Trevor Ariza, New Orleans Hornets – $7.3 million – Player Option ($7.7 million)
James Johnson, Toronto Raptors – $2.8 million – Restricted ($4.0 million Qualifying Offer)
Metta World Peace, L.A. Lakers – $7.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.7 million)
Al-Farouq Aminu, New Orleans Hornets – $2.9 million – Team Option ($3.7 million)
James Jones, Miami HEAT – $1.5 million – Player Option ($1.5 million)
Rashard Lewis, Washington Wizards – $22.7 million – Unrestricted
Markieff Morris, Phoenix Suns – $2.0 million – Team Option ($2.1 million)
Omri Casspi, Cleveland Cavaliers – $2.3 million – Restricted ($3.3 million)
Chris Singleton, Washington Wizards – $1.6 million – Team Option ($1.6 million)
Marvin Williams, Atlanta Hawks – $8.3 million – Early Termination Option ($7.5 million)
Kyle Korver, Chicago Bulls – $5.0 million – Unrestricted
Luke Babbitt, Portland Trail Blazers – $1.9 million – Team Option ($2.9 million)
Luke Walton, Cleveland Cavaliers – $5.8 million – Unrestricted
E’Twaun Moore, Boston Celtics – $0.8 million – Unrestricted*
Julyan Stone, Denver Nuggets – $0.8 million – Unrestricted
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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i kind of want to deal derozan away this summer and try to upgrade that way
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
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it depends on who will be calling the shots cus by the way things are going, its not gona be BC.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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it depends on who will be calling the shots cus by the way things are going, its not gona be BC.
Yeah BC is on a leash without an extension and he may see things differently. But he's always talked about not wanting instant gratificaiton by drafting Valancunas and keeping him in Lithuiana for one year. I think he won't wait until next year though.
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Old 07-09-2012, 07:07 AM   #7 (permalink)
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it depends on who will be calling the shots cus by the way things are going, its not gona be BC.
I would bet money that his 2013-14 option will be picked up. I don't think he's done this summer, so we'll have to wait and see.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:50 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Waiting for free agency is a huge gamble as we've seen this season it doesnt work out even when you're considered "the favourite". Toronto has never really been a place free agents rush to come play and with all these super teams being created do we seriously have a legit chance?.... i mean even Nash turned down like 11 mill and opted to pair his talents with arguably the greatest player and a nemesis kobe to win a ring. So what shot does this Canadian team that has almost no chance of winning a ring in the next few years have at trying to sign even one free agent let alone two?
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Old 07-09-2012, 04:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I would bet money that his 2013-14 option will be picked up. I don't think he's done this summer, so we'll have to wait and see.
DD is about to enter his 4th season. DD has a QO of about 4.5 million for 13/14.
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