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Old 05-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i list here the SF whom could be available with a trade or by RFA/FA :

simple Trade:
M Williams (for tpe + 2nd rd indy 2012)
Casspi (for tpe + 2nd rd 2012)
L.Mbah a Moute (for tpe + 1st 2013)
D Wright (tpe + 1st 2013)
D Williams (Amir + 1st 2013)
Ariza (tpe + 1st 2013)


big trade :
Maggette (+ walker for Calderon + 1st 2013)
Iguy (for Calderon + 1st 2012)
Parson (+ Lowry for barg)

chandler (???)
Dudley (???)

RFA/FA:
Batum (10M)
T Mac (3-4M)
Terrence Williams (4M)
J evans (5M)
CJ MIles (5M)



by preference :
1. iguy/batum
2. Parson/D Williams/ariza/J evans
3. D wright/Maggette/T Mac/T williams/Dudley
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Maggette ia a big trade?
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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D.Williams (assuming Derrick) is the only appealing piece,Iggy is overrated and Maggette is just old
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Old 05-01-2012, 11:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Maggette ia a big trade?
to me big trade because that include more than just the player in question.


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D.Williams (assuming Derrick) is the only appealing piece,Iggy is overrated and Maggette is just old
Derrick yes, would be nice, with JJ they are alike, but they can be a great par at SF to go forward.
and iguy defense isn't overrated. one of the best, if he has some other player whom play defense alongside.

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Old 05-01-2012, 11:49 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I'd only go after Iguodala in that list. Parsons wont be traded since he had a nice rookie year, and Batum reportedly hates us, so I'd say Iguodala is the target to go for if we dont get a SF in the draft
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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We don't need any more bench level players. If you're not bringing in a player superior to JJ, don't waste resources/cap space.

That means Batum (they'll match) or Iggy (can't see why they'd want Jose) or Parsons (interesting trade I'd have to think more about.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:24 PM   #7 (permalink)
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bankiz i always like your creativity and looking at possiblities but there is no way in hell houston does that trade! I think they would probably not consider lowry or parsons on their OWN for bargs! Lowry because maybe they can get more for him and parsons because he had a great rookie year and has a good all-round game.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yep for parsons, that was also a trade with buddinger or morris (whom can be a JJ like)

i just point out some SF whom can be brought to be raps next season.

i intentionnaly miss gay and granger because trade would be very complicate to get them. they are on winning team, and starter.

as more we discuse the sf matter with my wife, and more i think in fact we should let JJ grown next seasn as a starter. (whoever start isn't assure to close game), and maybe find a more barbosa like SF. or maybe kleiza healthy. but can he be healthy, that a good question; two years with us, and two waste season for both (him and the team)
so a dudley, or a D wright or a cj miles, can be deadly weapon coming of our bench.

but for that we should also have a great becnh :
for now we should have Jv, Amir, and forbes, and no one else on contract.


i say that if we don't get a sf by draft.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:06 PM   #9 (permalink)
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yep for parsons, that was also a trade with buddinger or morris (whom can be a JJ like)

i just point out some SF whom can be brought to be raps next season.

i intentionnaly miss gay and granger because trade would be very complicate to get them. they are on winning team, and starter.

as more we discuse the sf matter with my wife, and more i think in fact we should let JJ grown next seasn as a starter. (whoever start isn't assure to close game), and maybe find a more barbosa like SF. or maybe kleiza healthy. but can he be healthy, that a good question; two years with us, and two waste season for both (him and the team)
so a dudley, or a D wright or a cj miles, can be deadly weapon coming of our bench.

but for that we should also have a great becnh :
for now we should have Jv, Amir, and forbes, and no one else on contract.


i say that if we don't get a sf by draft.
yeah, i agree that JJ can be a starter for us. He has more growth in him. I think i would maybe like to see us get more good players and wait for one of them to be great rather than give up a lot of our pieces for one great player.
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Old 05-01-2012, 05:07 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Magette is a bum and I don't want any of what you proposed except the one guy its impossible to get.

Lots of crack pipes being used today.
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Magette is a bum and I don't want any of what you proposed except the one guy its impossible to get.

Lots of crack pipes being used today.
that joke is weak, last week. (or decade.)

rather than crack addiction and stupidy could it be down to enthusiasm and optimism and trying to get people talking about possible trades?
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
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iggy is the only 1 that interests me at all, i like how he has skills in all parts of the game and doesn't really need plays run for him, that would fit well with a Bargnani taking most of the shots
he can also be a point forward which i like when jose is not on the court
he's also good defensively so he'd fit in the casey schemes and still fits in with the "athletic" group on offense, and he can shoot 3s which we lack at the wing position and he fills the veteran need and not just with experience buy with skill
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iggy is the only 1 that interests me at all, i like how he has skills in all parts of the game and doesn't really need plays run for him, that would fit well with a Bargnani taking most of the shots
he can also be a point forward which i like when jose is not on the court
he's also good defensively so he'd fit in the casey schemes and still fits in with the "athletic" group on offense, and he can shoot 3s which we lack at the wing position and he fills the veteran need and not just with experience buy with skill
100% agree on every count. I love his defense, ability to create for himself and for others as he really is an unselfish player. His scoring may be down but his apg are up. So many aspects that fit in nicely with the Raps where they are heading - all points that the Admiral pointed out just emphasizign them. Only thing I would point out myself is Iggy just turned 28, is in his prime, and the Raps really do need a solid vet - especially if JC goes (however I'd rather he stay). Iggy would be tough to get but it would be great.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Iggy would be tough to get but it would be great.
Here's my 5 minute attempt at a trade to get us Iggy:

To Toronto:
Igoudala

To Indiana:
Jrue Holiday

To Philly:
Jose Calderon
Ed Davis
Paul George
Toronto 2013 first (Lottery protected)

Why Indiana: Need a legit PG in the worst way. Collison is not the answer, though they'd probably have to move him after this deal. George looks like he'll be a stud but Jrue has similar potential.

Why Philly: Assuming they're knocked out first round, they need to make a move. Get young with ED and Paul George immediately fills Iggy's absence. Jose fills PG and allows Turner and Lou to control the ball more.

Why Toronto: Give up young big with potential and starting PG for a stud wing stopper. Give up a first rounder next year but still have this year's to grab a PG.

Yes, Philly could probably do better than this for Jrue and Iggy but it's the best I can come up with right now.
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Old 05-01-2012, 07:52 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Here's my 5 minute attempt at a trade to get us Iggy:

To Toronto:
Igoudala

To Indiana:
Jrue Holiday

To Philly:
Jose Calderon
Ed Davis
Paul George
Toronto 2013 first (Lottery protected)

Why Indiana: Need a legit PG in the worst way. Collison is not the answer, though they'd probably have to move him after this deal. George looks like he'll be a stud but Jrue has similar potential.

Why Philly: Assuming they're knocked out first round, they need to make a move. Get young with ED and Paul George immediately fills Iggy's absence. Jose fills PG and allows Turner and Lou to control the ball more.

Why Toronto: Give up young big with potential and starting PG for a stud wing stopper. Give up a first rounder next year but still have this year's to grab a PG.

Yes, Philly could probably do better than this for Jrue and Iggy but it's the best I can come up with right now.

Really like the trade, but Indy is very high on Paul George so I'm not sure what they'll say to that.
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Old 05-01-2012, 08:56 PM   #16 (permalink)
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i think we can grab iguy (BC can) :

NOH get tpe + 2nd rd indy 2012
Phily get Ariza + Kleiza + Amir + 1st toronto 2012
Toronto get Iguy.

NOH do it for capspace.
Phily get a fair value for iguy. they get depth at SF (and ariza is a solid defender too) and Amir at backup for Young is nice. The 1st pick give them incentive.
We get a legit SF.

we can offer barbosa a full mle (5M)

calderon/bayless
DD/Barbosa
Iguy/JJ
Bargs/Davis
Gray/JV

Immediatly you are more than a 8th spot contender.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:07 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Instead of the big names, I can see BC going after a guy like Dorrel Wright. He's a solid 3 who is a top shooter, defensive and plays within the team offense.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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that joke is weak, last week. (or decade.)

rather than crack addiction and stupidy could it be down to enthusiasm and optimism and trying to get people talking about possible trades?
thats why there is a trade proposal thread for all the dreamers.
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