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Old 07-06-2012, 11:10 AM   #21 (permalink)
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This team will be crushed on the glass. Maybe Lowry will lead the team in rpg :cookie:
i don't see us getting crushed on the glass. Of the starters 3 are good rebounders and with guys like amir, acy, gray/val, Ed, JJ on the bench our 2nd unit would also be fine in that respect.
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Old 07-06-2012, 11:22 AM   #22 (permalink)
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i don't see us getting crushed on the glass. Of the starters 3 are good rebounders and with guys like amir, acy, gray/val, Ed, JJ on the bench our 2nd unit would also be fine in that respect.
Bargs + DD are horrid rebounders. A rookie C. Fields is alright. Lowry is a top rebounding PG.
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Bargs + DD are horrid rebounders. A rookie C. Fields is alright. Lowry is a top rebounding PG.
DD was ok last season. Fields is very good. Gray may start and Val won't play huge mins and should be a decent reb. Plus, which you haven't accepted yet, our bench bigs are all good rebounders, plus there's JJ, so as a team i just don't think we'll get "crushed."
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Old 07-06-2012, 12:59 PM   #24 (permalink)
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DD was ok last season. Fields is very good. Gray may start and Val won't play huge mins and should be a decent reb. Plus, which you haven't accepted yet, our bench bigs are all good rebounders, plus there's JJ, so as a team i just don't think we'll get "crushed."
as a team no, but the starting unit - yes.
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:12 PM   #25 (permalink)
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the struggles in having a 7ft 4 that cant rebound
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Old 07-06-2012, 01:16 PM   #26 (permalink)
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the struggles in having a 7ft 4 that cant rebound
yup. constantly compared to Nowitzki yet Nowitzki is much more efficient on offense and can actually rebound.
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yup. constantly compared to Nowitzki yet Nowitzki is much more efficient on offense and can actually rebound.
brutal... and how much are they both paid again? We all know Dirk is a stud.... let's get over it.
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:13 PM   #28 (permalink)
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brutal... and how much are they both paid again? We all know Dirk is a stud.... let's get over it.
true. also, Bargs lack of rebounding probably has saved the raps at least $3 million a year on his deal.
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true. also, Bargs lack of rebounding probably has saved the raps at least $3 million a year on his deal.
probably 5M... lol
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:28 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Old 07-06-2012, 02:54 PM   #31 (permalink)
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If I recall Bargn was averaging close to 7 boards before his Injury...That being said, should be interesting to see how he plays next year with all the rest and recovery..And knowing Dwayne Casey expects more of him.
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DD was ok last season. Fields is very good. Gray may start and Val won't play huge mins and should be a decent reb. Plus, which you haven't accepted yet, our bench bigs are all good rebounders, plus there's JJ, so as a team i just don't think we'll get "crushed."
sorry, but DD is not an ok rebounder, he's terrible, he averaged like 3 a game, thats not even 1 per quarter, you'd think someone who is supposed to be a "highflyer" could stumble onto more than that just by jumping higher than his opponenton loose balls
but i do agree that we won't get "crushed" on the boards
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Old 07-06-2012, 08:56 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Fields looked a lot better at SF than SG where he played more frequently last season.

I'm actually curious to see what a fully healthy Kleiza can do at SF. While I;d love to get Iggy, I don't think the SF position is that bad right now.
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Fields looked a lot better at SF than SG where he played more frequently last season.

I'm actually curious to see what a fully healthy Kleiza can do at SF. While I;d love to get Iggy, I don't think the SF position is that bad right now.
With KLZ dominating overseas his trade value must be going up. I for one would be happy starting Kleiza at SF next year. Lowry,DD,KLZ,Mago,and Val. Even though Val will not start the season at C he will eventually become the starter at some point during the season. How would y'all feel about KLZ as our starting 3 heading into the season? We would definetly have the hardest front court to pronounce in the league
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With KLZ dominating overseas his trade value must be going up. I for one would be happy starting Kleiza at SF next year. Lowry,DD,KLZ,Mago,and Val. Even though Val will not start the season at C he will eventually become the starter at some point during the season. How would y'all feel about KLZ as our starting 3 heading into the season?
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We would definetly have the hardest front court to pronounce in the league
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this would be true even with iguodala at sf
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Old 07-08-2012, 02:41 PM   #36 (permalink)
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If we had gotten Nash, I wouldve wanted Igoudala or Josh Smith (would fit good next to Bargs I think, on offense have AB at SF and Smith at PF, on defense they switch), but since we've got a penetrating scoring PG now I'd rather go for Rudy Gay. Teams almost need 3 shooters to space the floor in today's NBA, and if we started Lowry, DD, Iggy, Bargs, and JV, the lane would get plenty crowded (would be helped somewhat if DD was traded for Iggy and Ross or Fields started at the 2). Gay is the best option available IMO as he's the best shooter of the bunch and a good rebounder for the position (a necessity playing next to Bargnani). He's also young and still has upside, along with real talent that this team is still lacking in. Yes, his contract is massive, but how else to we get all-star talent here besides overpaying anyway? Just so happens in this case Memphis did the overpaying for us lol.
I'm very high on the idea of adding Gay to our core, and I'm low on keeping DeRozan with the other pieces we now have in place (just seems like a bad fit with basically everyone but Jose, who also seems like a bad fit these days lol). The solution: trade DeMar, Ed Davis, and Jose for Gay.
For Memphis, it makes sense to get a younger, cheaper version of Gay when the team has performed no worse with Gay out of the lineup anyway in recent years. Yes, DeMar isn't nearly as good of a player, but Memphis has enough talent elsewhere that they don't need that production at the 3 as much as we do, especially not at that cost. They get an exceptional backup PG and a boost in 3pt shooting on an expiring contract (Jose) and a young developing big on a rookie contract (Ed).
For Toronto, they get to roll out the following roster:
PG: Kyle Lowry, ?
SG: Landry Fields, Terrence Ross
SF: Rudy Gay, James Johnson, Linas Kleiza
PF: Andrea Bargnani, Amir Johnson
C: Jonas Valanciunas, Aaron Gray

Not sure what our cap situation would look like at this point but use whatever we have left to sign a backup PG (could amnesty Kleiza if it helps...) and another big for the vet's minimum and we're done for the summer. This lineup features excellent rebounders at PG, SG, SF, and potentially C to offset Bargnani's "contributions" in that area, with good perimeter shooting and 3 starters capable of creating their own shot. Would be a decent lineup defensively with potentially all-star talent at multiple positions, balance and depth and plenty of room to improve while Ross and JV get acclimated to the NBA and the rest of the roster hits it's prime.
So we got youth, talent, depth, 3pt shooting, rebounding, defense, and potential... What do u think? Who would say "no", Memphis or Toronto?

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Old 07-08-2012, 07:05 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Our best chance to get a good SF is for phily or Memphis to stumble
They are spending way over their budgets, and they may be willing to cut salary at the deadline. We have the cap space to absorb a large salary and we wouldn't have to trademay assets in return.

Memphis is particularly a good target, they are right against the luxury taxand there's a good chance they miss on the playoffs, the west is very deep again this year
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You can tell with Memphis not trying at all to keep Mayo that one of both are true: they don't have $ and/or they want depth. We can give them a 3 for 1 deal or a 4 for 2.
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Our best chance to get a good SF is for phily or Memphis to stumbleThey are spending way over their budgets, and they may be willing to cut salary at the deadline. We have the cap space to absorb a large salary and we wouldn't have to trademay assets in return.

Memphis is particularly a good target, they are right against the luxury taxand there's a good chance they miss on the playoffs, the west is very deep again this year
I believe this to be true.... and really, either Gay or Iggy would be fine.
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Old 07-08-2012, 07:34 PM   #40 (permalink)
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either Gay or Iggy would be fine.
I think we can all agree on that.
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