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![]() Eaxactly. That's what i want to see. Also, looking at this team does this really look like a "fast paced team" the way it's meant to be? This to me is a mid tempo team that just seems to wing it on the offensive end. It also doesn't help that we're 22nd in the league defensively. Can't get out and run when you're opponent is consistently shooting 48%.
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Please think long about that and get back to me. LOL @ 12 shots/gm being "selfish". Did you even watch tonight's game? Quote:
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A PG should never shoot a 3 with 20 seconds on a clock and nobody under the basket, it's a stupid play worthy of guys like nick young. Not sure why you're trying to defend something that's clearly indefensible. It's a bad thing and he shouldn't be doing it. Obviously, you'd rather have lowry even if he's doing some stupid things occasionally, but it would be a lot better if he didn't do them at all. And, for a guy with his quickness, he should really be averaging close to 10apg for the minutes he's playing, anything below 8 is indicative of a scoring PG. |
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Lowry produced, I just didn't like the "way" he produced. Very little ball movement and lots of tunnel vision. He has huge balls though, probably the biggest of any Raptor. The man is not afraid to draw contact or get wacked |
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I've seen those guys take quick shots before... on more than 1 occasion. John Stockton was actually famous for taking quick 3s in transition with 20 secs left on the shot clock. You (and the others) are trying to nitpick. Plain & simple. Whether it's a quick shot... a TO... his man getting by him on a possession... there will ALWAYS be something for you to bitch about. And you know what? I can do the same thing for ANY PG (or player) in the NBA. As for Lowry not avging 10 apg.... I'm not sure that you realize how difficult a task that is given the fact that there's only ONE PG in the NBA doing that right now. Quote:
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![]() It's also funny to me that he's deemed selfish, but would everyone consider him a top three player on this team?
If he's top three on this team (which he easily is) and he's 3rd on this team in shot attempts isn't that about where it should be? Bargnani 15.8 Shots attempts per game Derozan 15.5 Shot attempts per game Lowry 12.3 shot attempts per game Calderon 9 shot attempts per game off the bench So out of the starting 5, he's 3rd in shots. That seems odd? Really? He's also outrebounding every big on this team and gets to he line 5.3 times pe game, second only to Derozan's 5.5. Last edited by jeffb; 12-04-2012 at 12:44 AM. |
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If he would be so great Memphis and Houston woulda kept him. As I said - great individual fantasy numbers doesn't mean it will translate into team wins. He is not even in top 50 in AST/TO ratio...Not great for starting PG. Again, I said already I like lots of things about him but he has very serious faults as starting PG. Not sure I need to look for other point guards we can acquire.. how about he works on his weaknesses and shows to me in the future that he can be better then he is now? |
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![]() It is not about pure numbers. It is about timing of those shots and situations. He can take 15 shots/game and not deserve selfish label as long as these shots are within offense. Now he does lots of one on one drives and step back jumpers instead of passing to open teammate - maybe it is not selfish, maybe he just does not have pass first mentality or court vision. Example from Houston game is perfect - instead of passing the ball and getting team easy two he decided to take step back three on a fast break - that play alone shows how poor his basketball IQ is. Loss vs Detroit - another example, we lost because of his inability to make right decisions down the stretch.
True winning PG should always make best decision possible for the team - be it a pass, or a shot, or call a timeout. Last edited by Calgary Jazz; 12-04-2012 at 01:13 AM. |
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Notice how many times he got to the line? When no one else did? Guess that was Lowry playing Hero Ball again. "Serious faults" as a starting PG.... riiiiight. Let's take a look at what Lowry can do.... - can penetrate and get to the line - can rebound the ball - can pass - can play D - can shoot it from deep Yep. Looks like D-League talent to me. |
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More players will become threats, and we'll score more if we stop running isolation and screen plays for players who suck at it. |
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![]() Missed the game....too bad we lost.....no blow out so it must have been a good game.Checking the stats and it looks our hero played well. However i read on this board more and more fans are turning on Lowry. I guess his ankle was good today ???? Bad game its the ankle... good game hes healthy.....wow beam me up scotty !!!!!!
See Pietrus started and got 3 pts what happened there....got to get him back off the bench playing with Ross Calderon and Johnson. Looks like Calderon shit the bed only 16 minutes did he even break a sweat.Maybe his ankle was sore lol!!!! From the posts all i got is that Lowry had a stats building game.....6-16 shooting. Looks like he was lights out from the FT line.He went there 11 times the next Raptor got there only 2 times...?????? Something really wrong there......pg must facilitate from the point did he do it tonite ???? I will have to watch the game...bottom line it was close but that line will not get you to the playoffs. |
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![]() After last night... I'm game. It was a fucking disaster.
PGs should not be scoring 24 unless its from open looks or driving. Lowry has been chucking up contested shots, long threes, shots early in the clock, etc. and not doing what he's supposed to do. I don't care if he's frustrated, he's supposed to be a leader. His poor shot selection and frequency of it, inability to penetrate and dish and his complete lack of clutch shooting is not making up for his good points for me right now. His offense is not generally as frustrating as Calderon's Defense, but it has been the last 2 games. And shot selection and frequency has nothing to do with being injured. Last edited by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu; 12-04-2012 at 09:36 AM. |
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and a 1, and a 2, and a 1,2,3,4!
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it just sucks that his so called "championship D" has also shit the bed recently |
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Bottom line - he hustles and plays hard, just not smart and it is not resulting in wins, simple. If you have game recorded, rewatch it and pay attention to the episode he gets blocked by McGee. After getting all the way to the rim on baseline drive he decides to challenge one of the best shot blockers while JV is waiting 2 feet from the basketball for an easy dunk. Simple pass, 2 pts for the team - huge difference. Until he figures it out he will remain good fantasy player, nothing else. |
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I've noticed Lowry is terrible at looking off of JV, in fact, he's brutal in terms of getting the right guys the ball at the right times. Yeah he is getting a few assists a game, but in terms of who gets the ball and when.. I'm not sure he fits well with DD and Bargs. Those guys are system players that need the offense to stop and get them the ball in set spots for a shot. Lowry would seem to need a more free flowing system but we don't have the creators on the floor to do that. He never continues to feed hot hands, never looks to get anyone established. It like he passes only to set up his own offensive game. Lowry is a player that looks real good on paper, but in terms of improving the team overall it is misleading. I'm seeing glimpes of Mike James, but am willing to wait and see if he improves with time as his "injury" heals. Last edited by Bargn88; 12-04-2012 at 12:28 PM. |
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