Secret to Bargnani's success
Old 02-03-2012, 11:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sprawled across an oversize couch in a rumpus room tucked behind the Raptors’ ACC training facility, Andrea Bargnani is doing something weird.

He’s laughing.

On the court, in front of cameras and anywhere there’s a crowd, Bargnani wears an expressionless mask that his critics have spent six years trying to interpret.

The least charitable have decided he isn’t grinning or grimacing or generally clowning because he doesn’t care.

And he doesn’t care, but not in the way they mean.

When you get him in a room alone, he is an entirely different person. He is solicitous and engaging. He is more articulate in his second language because he can focus on a single conversation, rather than several scattershot ones. For someone who’s been kicked so often, he is amazingly open.

This version of Bargnani — the real one — is a lot of fun, which you’ll agree is a word not usually associated with the cornerstone of the Raptors franchise.

He knows what people say about the way he carries himself in public. There is an explanation, which is presented without the slightest hint of an excuse.

“I grew up with a really tough European coach (current Lakers assistant Ettore Messina),” Bargnani says.

Messina still figures largely in his imagination. The Italian had him at Benetton Treviso for three crucial years between the ages of 18 and 20. No mentor has had a greater impact. While his game has changed since, Bargnani’s demeanour was cemented as a teenager.

“All the stuff you can do here in college, the celebrating, that’s not allowed. If you do something like this” — and here he mimes the familiar gesture of pounding a fist to the chest — “you’re done. That’s really, really bad. So I got used to not doing it. I was very close to crying more than one time when I was young with that coach.”

Now he prefers hardcourt imperturbability, while still allowing himself the odd outburst.

“I do what I feel, not because people ask me to do this,” Bargnani says, holding his hands over his head and doing a strange chicken dance.

Do not ask Andrea Bargnani to dance. He doesn’t like that.

This is the treacherous shore to Bargnani that a series of NBA coaches have run up against and foundered — he will not do what you ask him to just because you asked. He wants to be included in the discussion.

Before Bargnani was drafted first overall, he took one of the personality tests that is administered to most hopefuls in order to reassure would-be employers they are not flakes or kooks. Shortly after that draft, GM Bryan Colangelo raved about Bargnani’s performance.

“(The testers) said, ‘Out of all the athletes we’ve profiled, we’ve never seen anything like this,’ ” Colangelo told ESPN. One of the things the profile showed was that Bargnani does not care what other people think of him.

Here is a case in point: Bargnani is the only man in the Italian diaspora who tells people he can’t stand watching soccer.

“Zero. No interest. It’s soooo boring.”

Kelly: Andrea Bargnani loosens up, reveals secrets to success - thestar.com
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I finally agree with Bargs on something, Soccer is incredibly boring!
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I finally agree with Bargs on something, Soccer is incredibly boring!
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I'd rather watch golf
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:02 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd rather watch golf
i'll be honest i don't see how this ties in with him being successful.

are they trying to say the lack of need for attention leads to him working harder than most?
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I'd rather watch golf
Soccer is so much slower than basketball for sure, but come on, don't exaggerate now.
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Golf? really?
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yes, golf. that's how much i hate soccer.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:28 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Golf and soccer are both pretty terrible.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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yes, golf. that's how much i hate soccer.
How can you hate golf but like baseball? I don't get it, baseball is much more boring than golf.
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How can you hate golf but like baseball? I don't get it, baseball is much more boring than golf.
I love Baseball because i played close to 15yrs of highly competitive baseball. I grew up with baseball and still play ball every summer. When you grow up with something and have an understanding of the game itself with experience of playing it at a high level you have a tendancy of loving that sport. No different than people here growing up with Hockey or many people all over the world growing up with Soccer. I started playing ball at 5 (tee-ball) and never looked back. Growing up it was baseball all summer, hockey all winter.

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This is what Dwane Casey has figured out — that Bargnani wants to be coached collaboratively, not cajoled or disciplined or talked at.

Your opinion of him doesn’t matter — not to him, and not to you if your goal is to coax the best out of him. What matters is Bargnani’s opinion of you.
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Soccer iiisssss terrible.
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A: Bargs joined the dark side so he is a bad ass now
B: He sold his soul to the devil
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I finally agree with Bargs on something, Soccer is incredibly boring!
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Old 02-08-2012, 07:46 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Maybe the reporter should sit down with demar. Would save us a lot of question marks
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It feels nice to have been patient for so long with ignorant basketball media types....
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Bargnani just had to believe in himself. Well, that and be put in the right situation, be it the change of coach or even his switch to PF.
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