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jeffb 12-07-2013 08:27 PM

Scouting report on Rudy Gay pre-draft
 
Saw this posted at RealGm and thought it was pretty funny.


:gay:

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NBA Comparison: Scottie PippenStrengths: Elite run/jump athlete who finishes well above the rim ... High flyer ... Very versatile... Does everything well ... Complete offensive arsenal... Can hit the mid range jumper... Excellent at slashing to the hoop... Accurate passer who is very unselfish... Does the majority of his damage in the post ... Very tough to defend... Doesnt get pushed around down low ... Runs the floor well ... Tough on the boards... Works harder than everyone else on the court ... Will most likely play on the wing at the next level ... Extremely long (7-3 wingspan) and freakishly athletic ... Has shows tremendous potential. Late to the game, so his lack of a great feel could improve over time, he wasn't seriously coached until he was a junior in high school ...

Weaknesses: Though he's just 19 years of age, his sophomore year was supposed to be his to take over college basketball. When that didn't happen, people began to question his desire and intensity and whether he has it in him to become great ... He floats in and out of games, and tended to defer to teammates in clutch situations ... Is it a lack of fire, or just a lack of maturity and confidence? Time will tell ... Unselfish to a fault, like Vince Carter, he almost takes being the perfect teammate too far. He's a star and should act like one ... He still struggles to create offense for himself off the dribble, getting the majority of his baskets off of rebounds, or passes from teammates ...
Rudy Gay | NBADraft.net

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What do execs or scouts tell you most about your time at UCONN?

Rudy Gay: They say sometimes I was a little passive, too unselfish and stuff like that. Looking back at tapes I do kind of see myself doing that, but thatís what Iím working out for.
DraftExpressProfile: Rudy Gay, Stats, Comparisons, and Outlook

fantapoppa 12-07-2013 08:32 PM

I remember reading up on rudy gay when he was a draft prospect.
A lot of mocks had him #1 overall before the NCAA season started comparing him to scottie pippen
Kinda scary that wiggins is drawing up similar comparisons now with double the hype

pzabby 12-07-2013 08:40 PM

who was lebron compared to? I've always wondered that.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/lebron-james


damn. MJ. I'd say they got that right

LOG 12-07-2013 08:42 PM

Yea I remember, I thought he has huge upside and hoped we would draft him.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu 12-07-2013 10:01 PM

He was the consensus number 1 at the start of the year then dropped like a stone.

jeffb 12-07-2013 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 838983)
He was the consensus number 1 at the start of the year then dropped like a stone.

Kind of like Drummond. A year before the draft he was seen as the likely #1 pick, then dropped to #2-#3. He ended up going Ninth and Gay went 8th in his draft class.

Rene_13 12-07-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyJoJo Shabbadu (Post 838983)
He was the consensus number 1 at the start of the year then dropped like a stone.

I recall that quite vividly. He turned out to be a whole lot better than the guy who went #1. Regardless of the souring of his time here, he's still probably the 2nd best player out of that draft next to Aldridge.

jeffb 12-07-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rene_13 (Post 838985)
I recall that quite vividly. He turned out to be a whole lot better than the guy who went #1. Regardless of the souring of his time here, he's still probably the 2nd best player out of that draft next to Aldridge.

Brandon Roy was better until he got hurt, as was Rondo.

Rene_13 12-07-2013 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rene_13 (Post 838985)
I recall that quite vividly. He turned out to be a whole lot better than the guy who went #1. Regardless of the souring of his time here, he's still probably the 2nd best player out of that draft next to Aldridge.

Just checked out the class...

Roy was better, but he's done. Rondo over Rudy too. But still 3rd/4th best out of that class.

woodchuck 12-08-2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Rene_13 (Post 838988)
Just checked out the class...

Roy was better, but he's done. Rondo over Rudy too. But still 3rd/4th best out of that class.

Also Millsap.

woodchuck 12-08-2013 04:44 AM

It seems that Rudy took those "be more selfish" suggestions to heart, haha.

halphbreedballer 12-08-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by woodchuck (Post 839023)
It seems that Rudy took those "be more selfish" suggestions to heart, haha.

I really think Casey is at fault. He isn't "Holding anyone accountable" or anything else for that matter.

KoolAid 12-08-2013 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 839029)
I really think Casey is at fault. He isn't "Holding anyone accountable" or anything else for that matter.

He was a shitty chucker last year in memphis too, don't blame Casey for that.

jeffb 12-08-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolAid (Post 839030)
He was a shitty chucker last year in memphis too, don't blame Casey for that.

Not really. He took the same shots he always took, around 16 per game. He only started getting called a "chucker" when the shots went in less regularly. He has always been a high volume shooter because that's what was always asked of him and it's partly why he got a max deal.

KoolAid 12-08-2013 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 839032)
Not really. He took the same shots he always took, around 16 per game. He only started getting called a "chucker" when the shots went in less regularly. He has always been a high volume shooter because that's what was always asked of him and it's partly why he got a max deal.

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Originally Posted by KoolAid
last year in Memphis

There's a reason Memphis was willing to dump him for so little, and it goes beyond cheapness. When he stopped making those shots, for whatever reason, he should have stopped taking them and impacted the game in other ways.

Beans 12-08-2013 11:52 AM

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On the turnover prone side, and doesn’t make his teammates better. Brings little to nothing to the table as a passer, and needs to improve his ability to find the open man when he draws additional defenders.
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Not a great defender considering his tools, but has his moments when he’s motivated. Has all the physical tools of a lockdown defender, but lacks the right mentality to get the job done.
Sounds like he hasn't changed much since 2009.

jeffb 12-08-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by KoolAid (Post 839036)
There's a reason Memphis was willing to dump him for so little, and it goes beyond cheapness. When he stopped making those shots, for whatever reason, he should have stopped taking them and impacted the game in other ways.

You don't think he impacts games in other wats?

Kirby 12-08-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 839045)
You don't think he impacts games in other wats?

uhm. 5 rebounds and average defense I suppose. Negative impact on offense.

woodchuck 12-08-2013 12:06 PM

On the positive side, we can't doubt Rudy's work ethic. He did an awesome job getting rid of all that unselfishness.

LX 12-08-2013 12:07 PM

They failed to mention that his 7’3" wingspan allows him to dribble the ball 3 feet away from his body.


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