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jeffb 01-08-2011 08:13 PM

The score: Triano looks lost, Wright needs to play more
 
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By now, you may be sick of people praising Julian Wright and campaigning for the fourth-year player out of Kansas to get more minutes. Unfortunately, you’re about to get more of it.

In 312 total minutes played over just 24 appearances, Wright has brought a style of play that hasn’t been seen in Toronto for the better part of a decade. Here’s a swing-man whose first priority is defence, who always seems to be active on the defensive end, grabbing rebounds, forcing turnovers, blocking shots, etc.

Now, he’s no threat on the offensive end, but what should keep Wright on the floor is that he also knows his limitations, and plays within himself. Julian has attempted just under three shots per game in his appearances, and because he usually waits for an efficient scoring opportunity rather than just chucking the ball from anywhere, his field goal percentage hovers around 50 (currently 49.3).
Simply put, Julian Wright plays winning basketball; defence first and efficient offence.


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The truth is that Triano has been preaching the same song and dance for two years, and yet he never seems to follow through on his word. Remember that this is a guy who has stressed improved defence prior to the last two seasons. You see, all the post-game swearing in the world can’t hide the fact that Triano looks lost managing his rotation and coaching defence.
^ :haha:

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It’s because Bryan Colangelo has too much invested in Linas Kleiza, and Jay Triano seems to have a man-crush on Sonny Weems.

I’m aware that Kleiza has stepped his game up since being re-inserted into the starting lineup, but at the end of the day, in a one-possession ball game, I’d be willing to bet that most NBA-caliber coaches would have Wright on the floor instead of Kleiza.

As for Weems, I’m actually the one, who just two months ago, wrote that he had played his way into a role in the future of this franchise. It took less than a month for Sonny to selfishly play his way out of that role, and the unfortunate timing of his back injury didn’t help.

The Wright Decision | Blog Archive | RaptorBlog | Blogs | TheScore.com

Superjudge 01-08-2011 08:20 PM

Who wrote that?

Why do we have to respect him?

jeffb 01-08-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Superjudge (Post 490234)
Who wrote that?

Why do we have to respect him?

I respect him now. Play Wright more, Triano looks lost. Sounds right to me.

finstock 01-08-2011 08:25 PM

Still, to this juncture, I have limited qualms with Triano. This article seems to suggest that a minor tweak here and there - perhaps by a more "competent" coach - would suddenly turn this team around.

Triano has to make the best out of what he's got, and what he's got doesn't accumulate to much. All we can hope for is a competitive squad, and so far, Jay's done a good job motivating his boys.

Superjudge 01-08-2011 08:38 PM

agreed.

Beesh 01-08-2011 08:53 PM

this is so true, Ive been thinking same thing. Jay Triano has one way of doing things and he sticks to that, never changes anything.
Barbosa is another player that is losing minutes in Jay's system. He's the most experienced player on this team, he shouldn't be put in late game to bring the team back from a huge whole.
Weird Coach!

LX 01-08-2011 09:06 PM

I don't think coaching is a major issue. But I do think there has been a big disconnect between what this team says it is going to do, and what the priorities end up being, to the detriment of the overall results. Wright does need to play more. So does Davis. And Triano has a big muddle of role players to keep happy due to a lack of foresight once again. If Triano is lost, then Colangelo is trapped in a wilderness of his own making.

tettays 01-08-2011 09:40 PM

I love the Score. Triano's worst aspect (among many others) as a coach is that he doesn't use his players properly. He doesn't combine their skills as needed. Wright should play more. DeRozan should get the ball more. Bargnani should be a role player because he can't play Defense.

If people wanna blame Colangelo for putting the "wrong pieces" together, maybe they should consider the coach as the biggest piece of the puzzle that doesn't belong.

Ammo 01-08-2011 09:51 PM

Everything is cool until anyone implies that this team is underachieving. Then I am lost.

Phil Jackson, who I still want to see coach a bottom third team, would not get much out of this team.

LX 01-08-2011 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ammo (Post 490288)
Everything is cool until anyone implies that this team is underachieving. Then I am lost.

Phil Jackson, who I still want to see coach a bottom third team, would not get much out of this team.

When I talk about results, I don't personally mean wins. I mean trying to eek out some kind of identity they can build on. It would be a lot less frustrating to watch this team if there wasn't a constant disconnect. We see them trying, and in a situation where there wasn't a mish-mash of different aims, that would be more than enough. Instead one week the effort seems to point them one way, and the next week it has them going another. The implication of underachieving for me seems to come from the top. Otherwise they could stick to the idea of defense being a priority and following through with playing time accordingly, and take the losses in stride.

i would hope that Phil Jackson would at least try to see some definitive measures of improvement from week to week and month to month according to consistent principles that don't require talent to be followed through on. Playing the right way is playing the right way, regardless of a team's ability to compete in terms of talent.

Acie 01-08-2011 10:37 PM

You can't make shit shine.

Believe it or not the team has improved defensively ever so slightly and they do play pretty hard, but like most young teams finding their way, they are quite inconsistent.

eazy187 01-08-2011 10:43 PM

We were projected to be the worst team in the league and right now there are about 7 or 8 teams worse then us.

I call that progress.

jeffb 01-08-2011 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by eazy187 (Post 490355)
We were projected to be the worst team in the league and right now there are about 7 or 8 teams worse then us.

I call that progress.

Worst team in the league? First not, not everyone projected us to be the worst team in the league. Second, the ones that did say that weren't looking at teams like Cleveland, NJ, Washington, Minny, Sacremento close enough. We were basically projected to be one of the worst teams in the league and are again abysmal on D. I fail to see much progress if any.

LX 01-08-2011 10:55 PM

I don't know if the implication here is that Triano has already failed in any sense. I think it's more about him possibly failing if he doesn't follow through with giving Wright more of a role on this team.

jeffb 01-08-2011 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 490362)
I don't know if the implication here is that Triano has already failed in any sense. I think it's more about him possibly failing if he doesn't follow through with giving Wright more of a role on this team.

I don't know, his shots at him looking lost with his rotations and lack of coaching defence seems to say otherwise. Then again the comment of him having a man crush on Weems, albeit true is a bit of a cheap shot.

FoldedLaundry 01-08-2011 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 490364)
I don't know, his shots at him looking lost with his rotations and lack of coaching defence seems to say otherwise. Then again the comment of him having a man crush on Weems, albeit true is a bit of a cheap shot.

Probably has to do something with the Young Onez movement

LX 01-08-2011 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 490364)
I don't know, his shots at him looking lost with his rotations and lack of coaching defence seems to say otherwise. Then again the comment of him having a man crush on Weems, albeit true is a bit of a cheap shot.

that would be a biased reading

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Letís see Jay make the Wright decision, then.
There you go - this piece is not passing judgment on Triano as much as it is calling on him to follow through. My biggest problem with Triano is that he's been pretty allergic to making necessary decisions. I'll be pretty disappointed if he doesn't make this decision, but instead goes with inertia. But it's too early to sat that's happened just yet. It's a long season.

jeffb 01-08-2011 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 490382)
that would be a biased reading



There you go - this piece is not passing judgment on Triano as much as it is calling on him to follow through. My biggest problem with Triano is that he's been pretty allergic to making necessary decisions. I'll be pretty disappointed if he doesn't make this decision, but instead goes with inertia. But it's too early to sat that's happened just yet. It's a long season.

So you don't think saying he looks lost and taking a shot at his defensive coaching isn't judgement? I see what you mean about Wright tying into all of it, since he's a good defender and deserves more minutes, hense the rotation. But this guy seems to have an overall axe to grind with our foul mouthed HC. Then again, maybe i'm just biased as you say, afterall this does amuse me. lol

fk24 01-08-2011 11:46 PM

Wright needs to start right now. Kleiza's been arguably the most inefficient starting SF in the league. His length on the defensive end makes an impact. I don't really give a shit about the offense anymore because it's a lost season. We should try to develop a defensive identity.

jeffb 01-08-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by fk24 (Post 490407)
Wright needs to start right now. Kleiza's been arguably the most inefficient starting SF in the league. His length on the defensive end makes an impact. I don't really give a shit about the offense anymore because it's a lost season. We should try to develop a defensive identity.


Via RealGM:

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According to basketball reference, the Raptors starting SF Linus Kleiza is the most inefficient starting small forward in the league with a PER of 10.6. [Who has played more than 500 mins]

And to add to that, the Raptors have the most inefficient wing players (2's and 3's) in the NBA, with Leandro Barbosa heading the list at an average 15.5 PER.

Just to add, Sonny Weems isn't much better with a PER of 12.6.

Julian Wright, albeit a worse shooter, is still more efficient than both of these guys...even better than DeRozan too with a PER of 13.5
RealGM • View topic - Linus Kleiza: The Most Inefficient Starting SF in the NBA


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