The Score: Raptors offseason so far
 

Pretty spot on, I think. I don't see Jose giving up the starting job very easily. If Jose does start, it'll be interesting to see how Lowry responds. The one thing that turns me off about him is the way he handled the PG situation in Houston. Still hoping we can trade Jose to fill a need, though...

Lowry is a much better player than Jose. If Jose starts this year it will be because Lowry got injured. Lowrys starting job will never be in jeopardy when healthy, because Jose does nothing better than Lowry besides making wide open midrange shots off of screens at this point.

I don't blame him for the way he handled things in houston and neither wants to be a backup. Watching today, Lowry doesn't seem like a guy all that worried about Jose. Could it be he was already told he'd be starting? Jose has always been professional but whenever he's been the backup in the past he hasn't been happy and at times has struggled coming off the bench.

Like i said this won't be good for this team and it won't end well if Jose is still here come november.

He doesnt need to be told that.

Once fans see Lowry play the first few games next year, they'll laugh at the Jose v Lowry discussion we're having this offseason. I guess we just need something to talk about since the SF position doesnt look like its getting filled.

he played his best off the bench.

I'd argue that Jose is also better at running the pick and roll. I don't think either is much better than the other guy, I think they play different games. Lowry's does fit better within the overall system, but with certain guys on the floor, Jose can be more effective. I don't think Jose will start, but I also don't think it's going to be such an easy decision for Casey to choose which guy ends the game on many nights.

But I do agree with Jeff, it's an unnecessary distraction for the team. I think Jose is still an appealing asset, and the fact that he is slightly overpaid is mitigated by the expiring contract. If he can shine in the Olympics, where he should see a lot of playing time with Rubio out, his stock will rise. On the other hand, he may also get injured and become untradeable. I'd rather move him sooner than later and not take that risk. We still have plenty of holes to fill, and moving the one guy who clearly no longer fits into the team's long term plans is only reasonable.

Jose isn't complete shit like many here seem to believe. He is a great PG who makes the smart plays, keeping the flow of the offense in his and the teams favor. He'd also have more chemistry here. Having said that, I still believe Lowry > Jose overall. Just don't be surprised if you see an unusual amount of turnovers for Lowry in the first couple of weeks here.

Name me anyone person here that has said he's complete shit or has said anything remotely resembling those sentiments.

I've always been a big Jose fan.... but yeah... Lowry is better (when healthy) without a doubt.

Again, this is the TJ/Jack scenario replaying in many Raptors fans minds, not knowing that we acquired a different level of PG for the first time in the franchises history since Stoudamire. Jose barely got to the basket last year. Just because he averaged a high amount of assists doesnt mean he was nearly as effective as in years past. He probably dribbled as much last year in the games he played as a lot of the top 10 perimeter players in the NBA due to our lack of talent. He's going to get a higher amount of assists with the ball always in his hands and us throwing up desperaton shots at the end or near the end of the shot clock. He doesnt make the defence react like he used to in his first few years because hes lost a step and isnt nearly as aggressive as he used to be.

Lowry is going to get the other teams in foul trouble and us in the bonus in a lot of games, and he's going to get us more wide open quality looks with his quickness.

Thriller, what was Toronto's three point percentage last year? How much attention did any of the other players get on offence? I'm certain only Bargnani was getting doubled consistently.

I only ask because I am a little slow, and I am trying to figure a few things out.

OR I am am tearing you up right now. Take your pick yo!

You're like an enigma trapped inside a rubix cube in the twilight zone during an inception like dream.

hahahaha... dude I'm just saying, I think y're going a bit overboard. Toronto was a terrible shooting team last year, easy to guard, easy to clog the lane. You don't get to get to the rack if the defense doesn't respect your outside shooters. Toronto on offence wasn't scary last year, at all, and Jose had little to work with. His three couldn't shoot, his two def. couldnt' shoot and didn't mov well without the ball, both his back up 4's are absolutely useless on offence, and Bargnani was hurt all year. Oh, and they didn't have a center....

It's pretty fucking hard to do a lot in the scenario man. So you like Lowry better, here's to hoping I will to, but for now, ease up, Calderon isn't as bad as you claim, he just isn't man.

who here is claiming he's bad?

oh fuck..im going to sleep, i feel like I am actually losing IQ points dealing with you today jeff..dickwerm...till tomorrow.

;)

I have never ever ever claimed Jose is a bad player. Bad defender? Yes. Fallen off as a penetrating PG to the rim? Absolutely. I've said multiple times that he'd be the best backup PG in the NBA.

I think hes a great backup and a fringe starter if theres an injury. Thats the role he'd play on 85+% of NBA teams right now. If we're going to become a good team it isnt going to be with him at PG. I'd love to keep him longterm if he'd accept a 6th man role and a lot less money next year and going forward.

all we need is that starting SF :scratchchin:

Im excited man, I love lowry, and the fields addition, even though we overpayed for fields, hes gonna be solid, gonna be an exciting season

I just hope both him and the team realize that and he is sticking around for this season and beyond in a backup role.