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Old 07-22-2010, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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27. Bryan Colangelo, Toronto Raptors

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Old 07-22-2010, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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BC sucks he's even worst than MJ
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27th?! Are you fucking me? Based on what?
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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BC is definatley top 20 and even top 15. They are basing this on the teams performance.
BC has tried to do everything right.

-He got jermaine o neal cuz we needed a post presence after being destroyed by howard in the playoffs.
-He got Turk who at the time took magic to the finals and was really a "Mr. 4th quarter".

The only thing I question about BC is his vision and plan. How does he see the team in the future? What type of identity or atmosphere is he going to create?
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:29 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Here's the blurb about BC.

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Many LeBron James defenders say he should have left Cleveland because his general manager, Danny Ferry, failed at surrounding him with a good supporting cast. However, the truth is that argument should hold far more water with Chris Bosh than with LeBron. Bosh is not as good as LeBron, but he's had far less help from Bryan Colangelo, who squandered many of Bosh's best years with impulsive decisions.

Colangelo had a good reputation in Phoenix, but his tenure in Toronto has been abysmal. He's has thrown money around irresponsibly, despite being given several chances at the kind of cap flexibility necessary to build a good long-term foundation. Colangelo has had cap space in 2006 and 2009 and came away with T.J. Ford and Hedo Turkoglu. He traded many key assets for an overpaid and broken-down Jermaine O'Neal, then somehow made things worse by signing Turkoglu with the money he saved by eliminating his own mistake. He's given out long-term mid-level contracts to marginal players like Jarrett Jack, Jason Kapono and Amir Johnson. He's overpaid his own flawed players, giving Ford a big contract despite his injury issues, Calderon a bigger contract despite his defensive problems and Bargnani an even bigger contract despite not showing he was worth it consistently. In other words, he's the worst stereotype of the impatient GM, unwilling or unable to contain himself when he has some money in his pocket.

But none of those issues are as damaging as his handling of Bargnani in general. While the 2006 draft wasn't exactly full of superstars, Bargnani wasn't even on anyone's radar with the No. 1 pick until Colangelo began talking him up. Bargnani ultimately was a poor fit next to Bosh and played inconsistently, but that didn't stop Colangelo from constantly defending him, firing a head coach (Sam Mitchell) who didn't like him and giving him a big contract extension in 2009.

The difference between Ferry and Colangelo is Ferry learned from his initial mistakes and made shrewd moves to try mitigate them, whereas Colangelo just keeps making the same mistakes over and over again. That's why Colangelo is way down on this list.
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Well of course BC wants to keep the team competetive. Incase you haven't already noticed, its hard enough pursuading players to come play for a team in Canada. If BC goes into a rebuilding mode, what player in their right mind would come play for a shitty team in Canada?
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BC is definatley top 20 and even top 15. They are basing this on the teams performance.
BC has tried to do everything right.

-He got jermaine o neal cuz we needed a post presence after being destroyed by howard in the playoffs.
-He got Turk who at the time took magic to the finals and was really a "Mr. 4th quarter".

The only thing I question about BC is his vision and plan. How does he see the team in the future? What type of identity or atmosphere is he going to create?
And that there is his primary job. Getting a JO and a Turk without an overall vision is going to tend to lead to failure.
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:33 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I take this list with a grain of salt. I mean, Chris Wallace is 21. The same guy who traded Pau Gasol for nothing and gave LA a championship. Add his Iverson signing and hiring mistakes, I just don't see how he's ranked that high.
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Here's the blurb about BC.
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Funny thing is, even with BC at 27, he won't be the first to be fired, or even the second.
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I take this list with a grain of salt. I mean, Chris Wallace is 21. The same guy who traded Pau Gasol for nothing and gave LA a championship. Add his Iverson signing and hiring mistakes, I just don't see how he's ranked that high.
He cuts him slack because of the ownership. And yeah - he could have found reasons to cut BC some slack. That would still put BC in the bottom third.
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Same dudes write these articles will turn around and write the ones that help drive free agents from toronto.

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Old 07-22-2010, 06:42 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I posted it with a smug look on my face though. :heehee:
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Just went through the whole thing. It's a pretty solid read. It would be easy to shuffle any of the placements between 1-10 as well as 11-20 and pretty much 20-30. But the overall perspective is pretty good.
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:47 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Kind of confused how Rod Thorn is so high yet his team threatened to break the worst NBA record last year.

Oh, and speaking of the Nets, this article hasn't taken into perspective about the type of owners each team has. You don't think that if the Raptors were owned by a Mikhail Prokhorov that BC wouldn't be in the top 3? What if MLSe bought the Lakers? Still think they'd be willing to pay the tax?
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:54 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What a load of shit. He's easily a top 10-15 GM in the NBA. Looking at the people in front of him makes this whole article a joke.
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Old 07-22-2010, 06:54 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If you think about it, he can be so stupid as to give Barnes a 5Mil a year contract when the team with some cap space (cavs) are only offering 3.5... What's the fucking deal man?
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If you think about it, he can be so stupid as to give Barnes a 5Mil a year contract when the team with some cap space (cavs) are only offering 3.5... What's the fucking deal man?
Do you not realize by now, that non Euro players are gonna have to be overpayed to be motivated to come here? Seriously, you thought Barnes wanted to come here for the team or the weather??
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Since coming here, one division title, one executive of the year award. What has Kahn done in that time?
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:10 PM   #20 (permalink)
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If BC is the bottom 3 in the league there must be many high IQ GMs out there.
Didn't look at the article and won't.
Hell there are more than 3 new GMs.
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