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convinced that Raptors fans are only happy when
they're unhappy.
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is pounding the rock!
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![]() I think, that this is shite.
![]() I mean honestly, can you not glass empty pretty much every team in the league???? Everybody wants results, but for 45million a year. It ain't happening, ever, ever again. You wanna win, you gotta pay, unless you draft a Lebron type that dominates the league immediately. toronto's line up winning only 44 games?????? You might bite on that. Say it this way... Toronto's current lineup losing 38 games. NO Fucking WAY! They are too good to lose 38 games. Period. They coule lose maybe 30. then that gets ya 52 wins. Thats a nice year. For a nice club. With a roster now that can compete when the going gets tough in the springtime. |
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Bang Bang Bang, Skeet Skeet Skeet, She do that
thing for 3 retweets...
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BC has said numerous times that if the $$ make sense (ie, the player we get is WORTH going over the tax for) he has no problem going over the tax and MLSE has echoed his sentiments... We're going to be a 50 win team next year... We're in the east so we have considerably weaker opponents than the Western teams... im optimistic. |
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in dire need of a drink ...hic
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![]() uh What's wrong with $45 Mill for the 4?
Currently the other 8 we have signed are costing us $20 mil and that includes Banks awful contract. If necessary he can be bought out so his salary won't count for tax purposes. They could easily shed a few more mil if necessary. |
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effin' ineffable
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![]() And if the cap goes down, doesn't that just mean that Bosh has to accept less? Where this idea that they can't afford Bosh comes from is beyond me.
The concern about defense is legit, but they will be far ahead of where they started last season. If they have Jack, Delfino, Wright, and Derozan turns out to be as committed to D as he talks up, then there are plenty of stoppers on the perimeter to go along with tons of length in the frontcourt. IF IF IF? I look at how all those ifs are things being worked on to become less iffy, by everyone involved. To me that says they are not looking at the status quo, even if a championship appears somewhat out of reach immediately. I'll take that and run with it as a fan. |
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![]() how many teams are realistically competing for a championship anyways? in any league? ok, well, not in the cfl, but in any other major pro sports league? getting deeper into the playoffs and having a shot is all you can ask for, imo... anything else is gravy and/or luck.
let's look at the top nba teams - -lakers get gasol through a trade no one would have thought possible and it solidifies the team. artest is added and agrees to play for less cash than he could get elsewhere. -spurs get duncan by a complete stroke of luck and develop 2nd round picks into stars. -cavs draft lebron after being a laughing stock for years and suddenly become 'great' -boston gets an old friend to make what seems like a ludicrous deal and acquires garnett. allen comes to play with him and they succeed despite a razor-thin bench. the thinness of the team rears its head the followiong year and they don't make it past the 2nd round. -orlando drafts dwight after being terrible and then signs lewis to one of the most overpaid deals of all time. somehow it turns into a success. every one of these scenarios is full of 'ifs' and a whole bunch of luck and fortuitous circumstances. all you can really do is try to build yourself a good team and see how the guys can compete when the chips are down. seeing where we were at the end of last year and what our offseason prospects appeared to be, colangelo has pretty much done all he can do and more. |
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effin' ineffable
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![]() well said 'trane
the tunnel vision that sees nothing if it can't see the trophy gets pretty tiring. I could never be a fan if that's the way I say things. The game is about the possibilities, not the certainties. |
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![]() Really, how many clubs can you say right now are set up to win championships(have few weaknesses)? Two or three? I think a prime example out of those three is the Magic. Two years ago they were nowhere near contending but they overpaid for a star player, developed their own guys, drafted well and made some smart trades. Now they're contenders. Two years ago no one seen that path for them. They were being criticized for give Lewis far too much money and depending too much on average(at the time) players like Turkoglu and Nelson.
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in dire need of a drink ...hic
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![]() True. The Raptors have potential even if it's not playoff potential and possibilities. BC appears to have done pretty well filling the holes this season but nothings certain.
Coaching: a huge ? Starters: Improved at SG PG Depth: Improved if they get Jack Bench Depth: Improved Offense: Improved Defense: Worse Rebounding: Worse Toughness: Improved Interior Scoring: Worse Pick & Roll: Improved Shooters: Same Ball Handling: Improved Veterans Leadership: ? (Lost AP) Improved if they get Rasho Best Player: B rating 6th Man: Unknown Teamsmanship: Unknown Mostly they need Defense and a A type player. We don't know yet how good Bargs and Derozan will get. Bargs should still improve on his D and interior game. Derozans an unknown. Hopefully he can be successfull at the NBA level... |
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![]() At the end of the day all it takes is for KG, Allen or Pierce to go down with a serious injury and the Atlantic division would be wide open...The Top three would be wide open. Those guys are getting old. Sheed helps but time will tell how they hold up. They still don't have much of a bench.
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is pounding the rock!
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semi-dead inside.
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![]() That's all valid stuff. Although, I don't think I have "tunnel vision" as a fan.
Unless DeRozan is awfully good, this is our group for the next 3 - 4 years. We know - roughly - what they're capable of. Personally, I think there is more of an upside with some of the trades I mentioned. |
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