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Dr. J. Naismith 03-27-2009 01:12 PM

S'93: Colangelo’s Draft History


Originally Posted by Searching for '93
I’m prepping for the next installment of Ranking Raptor Draft Picks and saw something interesting:

Here’s what Colangelo has acquired through the draft as GM of the Raptors:

Andrea Bargnani. (Kobe sums up Bargnani nicely.)

That’s it.

Three drafts, one player. Can that be right? Let’s see:


* The Raptors drafted PJ Tucker with the 35th pick. Tucker plays for BC Donetsk in the Ukranian Super League.
* Daniel Gibson, Paul Millsap and Leon Powe were selected after Tucker. (I’m just saying.)
* Edin Bavcic was selected 56th and traded to Philadelphia.
* The Raptors exchanged their first pick in 2005 (Charlie Villanueva) for TJ Ford. Keep that in mind for later.


* The 2007 Pick was traded when the Raptors acquired Lamond Murray. Motherfucker. In 990 situations out of 1000, a first-round NBA draft pick is too valuable to throw into a trade, even if it’s lottery protected. We don’t even need to get into the philosophical side of the debate. I’m making that statement purely from an economic standpoint. You control the salary of your first and second round picks. Simple as that.
* Traded the 52nd pick to the Portland Trailblazers.


* Nothing. Let’s dig deeper in a very superficial, “these are the facts” manner:
* The Raptors drafted Charlie Villanueva in 2005.
* Villanueva was traded for TJ Ford.
* Rasho Nesterovic (acquired for Matt Bonner (!), Eric Williams and a 2009 second round pick), TJ Ford and the 17th pick in the 2008 draft were traded to Indiana for Jermaine O’Neal and the 41st pick: Nathan Jawai and his heart condition.
* Jermaine O’Neal and Jamario Moon were traded to Miami for Shawn Marion’s contract and $9,216,000 that sits on the end of the bench until 2011.
* So… If you’re scoring at home: Charlie Villanueva, Matt Bonner and a 2009 draft pick have been parlayed into:
o $17,180,000 of cap space, less approximately $4,000,000 because the salaries of Bosh, Calderon, Kapono and Bargnani appreciate in 2009.
o $4,464,000 and $4,752,000 of dead-weight over the next two seasons.
o Check it out for yourself on the HoopsHype page. (Awesome resource.)

So, how comfortable is everybody with Bryan Colangelo rebuilding the franchise? Kind of comfortable? Not comfortable at all? Desperately worried? Pouring gasoline on themselves? Gnawing on their own extremities? I’m curious.

And, did I miss anything?

- S’93

Source - Colangelo’s Draft History | Searching For '93

Renihan_00 03-27-2009 01:18 PM

One thing I will say about Colangelo, that I was thinking about today, is that he TRIED to get Salmons before Kapono and I think this team would look pretty good with Salmons on the floor right now!

MangoKidHoops 03-27-2009 01:22 PM

After Salmons, the attention turned to Fred Jones who was later flipped for Juan Dixon who was later flipped for Primoz Brezec. But Salmons would have been really nice on our team.

fancylad 03-27-2009 01:22 PM


And, did I miss anything?
no. looks pretty accurate. :sigh:

iRaptor 03-27-2009 01:22 PM

I'm not worried but I don't feel good, I mean I don't get hypnotized by these broadcasters cause I mean we are not looking good for next season as well, east is doing good all 13 teams fighting for playoff spot raps got put of that mix weeks ago. And wiz r banged up so east is still strong so what's so sure we r making the playoffs next year?

jeffb 03-27-2009 01:44 PM

One player in three drafts?? Really, that's all they've aquired?? Not!!

The fact is he's aquired several players on draft day in three years. Because some of those players didn't work out and aren't currently on the roster doesn't mean he didn't aquire them.

P.J Tucker (was an undersized but athletic player that didn't pan out)
Andrea (turning out to be a good pick)
T.J Ford (good move at the time, aquired on trade deadline day)
Jawai ( still here)
JO (most here salivated at the prospect of trading a 17th pick+package for JO)

Saying only one player was aquired in 3 drafts was extremely misleading.

Windex 03-27-2009 02:11 PM

who has BC drafted 1st round in PHX
95-Michael Finley
96-Steve Nash
99-Shawn Marion
00-Iakovos "Jake" Tsakalidis
02-Amar'e Stoudemire/Casey Jacobsen
03-Žarko Čabarkapa
04-Luol Deng traded to Chi
05-Nate Robinson traded to NYK

man, he's traded away a lot of picks

Ligeia 03-27-2009 03:30 PM

Every GM over that long a period has traded a lot of picks. Look at the best players in the game, and a lot of them were traded draft day. Off the top of my head, I'd say Nowitzki and Kobe come to mind.

Gurk 03-27-2009 03:41 PM

I just wish BC doesn't trade away our pick. I don't care if this is a bad draft but it is always nice to have some nice young players and who kknows they might even pan out to be better then expected

Nites 03-27-2009 04:49 PM

What happened to "Tsakalidis" btw?

Gurk 03-27-2009 04:50 PM

He "Tsaka" to much

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