Rudy on his future in Toronto
Old 02-20-2013, 05:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lots of stuff about his time in Memphis, but I picked out the to the TO-related stuff.

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The NBA TV is harder to find for Rudy Gay since he came to Toronto, not to mention the SportsCenter highlights that the Baltimore native has been such a big part of since being shipped to Canada.

There's the cold, the customs, and all the adjustments of international living that stars who came before him – from Tracy McGrady to Vince Carter and Chris Bosh – learned to live with. But Gay, who was traded from Memphis on Jan. 30 and has led the Raptors to a 6-2 record, five wins in a row, since his arrival, is fitting in just fine.

"I see this (Raptors team) as another Memphis," Gay, who has hit two game-winning shots and is averaging 21.3 points per game since coming to Canada, told USA TODAY Sports by phone in a lengthy interview on Saturday. "A lot of the pieces are there."

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As for the prospect of Gay staying in Toronto for the long-term, he laughed when pressed for an answer, "I've played six games. I don't know about (re-signing), but I love the organization. I possibly could be here for the rest of my career, but who knows."

Colangelo has a realist's view of the situation.

"It's been very clear that (Gay and his representatives) want to obviously see how this plays out, to be in a situation that's competitive," Colangelo told USA TODAY Sports. "He has now tasted a winning environment with the team they'd assembled in Memphis, and he wants to find that again. I'm hopeful to put us in a position where we can offer just that to Rudy and others that we are putting our stamp on this franchise.

"He clearly is emerging as our No. 1 option right now, and to be a No. 1 option in a competitive situation is pretty appealing … It's a chance to establish a marketing identity and presence in two markets. You really have the best of both worlds. You can market yourself to the Canadian marketplace as a completely separate entity and the American marketplace as a separate entity."
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As for whether Toronto's cold climate could deter Gay from staying, he reiterated what Colangelo had pointed out at his new player's introductory press conference: "It's cold, but I went to Connecticut and I'm from Maryland, so it's not far from that."
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"I'm excited about this team – excited about the possibilities of how good we can be," he said. "It was kind of a mixture of feelings when it first happened, getting traded and not knowing anything and one day thinking you're competing for a championship and the next day you're getting shipped off somewhere. It was a mixture of feelings…and now I've just got to embrace where I'm at. I'm happy I'm a Raptor right now… I want to see this team be a good team, to be a playoff team again."
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As for whether Toronto's cold climate could deter Gay from staying, he reiterated what Colangelo had pointed out at his new player's introductory press conference: "It's cold, but I went to Connecticut and I'm from Maryland, so it's not far from that."
We don't live in the Arctic Tundra.
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We don't live in the Arctic Tundra.
I know eh... ?? climate should be a non-factor in those decisions
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I know eh... ?? climate should be a non-factor in those decisions
if anything memphis is a hell of a lot colder than here. really bizzare

but then again the sterotype of white vegas will always live, even though it's almost never truly snow covered in the winters anymore and we don't have a casino (yet) in the downtown core
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if anything memphis is a hell of a lot colder than here. really bizzare

but then again the sterotype of white vegas will always live, even though it's almost never truly snow covered in the winters anymore and we don't have a casino (yet) in the downtown core
memphis isn't colder than here.
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if anything memphis is a hell of a lot colder than here. really bizzare

but then again the sterotype of white vegas will always live, even though it's almost never truly snow covered in the winters anymore and we don't have a casino (yet) in the downtown core
I agree the stereotypes are ridiculous but yeah, Memphis isn't colder than here. lol
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We don't live in the Arctic Tundra.
True. And they way they make it sound like custom and all this crap is such a headache. such a downer lol
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"He clearly is emerging as our No. 1 option right now, and to be a No. 1 option in a competitive situation is pretty appealing It's a chance to establish a marketing identity and presence in two markets. You really have the best of both worlds. You can market yourself to the Canadian marketplace as a completely separate entity and the American marketplace as a separate entity."
The one thing I really enjoy about the Raptors losing is Bryan Collangelo goes into hiding and stops talking. Fire this man.
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if anything memphis is a hell of a lot colder than here. really bizzare
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We don't live in the Arctic Tundra.
Oh, but hey, I was "whining" when I made the obvious statement about cultural biases and fallacies concerning Toronto.

You see it all the time, just in questions from the media.

Its just so bad man.
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Nope but we live in igloos and wear winter jackets all year round
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Oh, but hey, I was "whining" when I made the obvious statement about cultural biases and fallacies concerning Toronto.

You see it all the time, just in questions from the media.

Its just so bad man.
As for whether Toronto's cold climate could deter Gay from staying, he reiterated what Colangelo had pointed out at his new player's introductory press conference: "It's cold, but I went to Connecticut and I'm from Maryland, so it's not far from that."

What fallacy or bias is at play in this statement?

Ask Canadians about the weather in February - It actually is cold!!
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Weather is weather, but it is and should be a factor for some players, although if it is a factor it should be a really minor factor
like if a player was debating over 2 teams that appeared the same, its natural to compare the next thing which could be the weather conditions
either way, the general idea of being in another country not named USA is what throws players off first
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Chicago and New York are both as bad or worse for weather.

When a player brings up the "cold" issue, they either are dumb or just dont want to come here.
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Chicago and New York are both as bad or worse for weather.

When a player brings up the "cold" issue, they either are dumb or just dont want to come here.
Besides, to me cold is cold. Whether it's -5 here or -1 somewhere else. Does it really matter? Let's face it, outside of 6-7 or so of cities in the NBA it's cold in the winter to varying degrees and in each of them you need a winter coat. Is Toronto any different than playing in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, NY, Milwaukee, Boston, Washington, Indiana etc......
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As for whether Toronto's cold climate could deter Gay from staying, he reiterated what Colangelo had pointed out at his new player's introductory press conference: "It's cold, but I went to Connecticut and I'm from Maryland, so it's not far from that."

What fallacy or bias is at play in this statement?

Ask Canadians about the weather in February - It actually is cold!!
I think it's just the fact of the media also perpetuating it by asking a question that would imply he's never played in or even traveled to a cold climate before. Good on Gay for being educated and having the ability to counter yet another dumb question.
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I think it's just the fact of the media also perpetuating it by asking a question that would imply he's never played in or even traveled to a cold climate before. Good on Gay for being educated and having the ability to counter yet another dumb question.
No doubt, but not only the media, the fans as well - just look at all the defensive comments in this thread.
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He sucks. He's not very good.

In fact his game exactly like Demar pre-trade, with more mid range jumpshots, less free throws, layups and much less playmaking, passing. Save for fourth quarter scoring.

In fact, since he's arrived here, Demar has been better & looked like the better player, statistically.

So why are we paying 8-9 million more for a similar, worse version of a guy we already have signed on contract?

Oh yea, same reason why we have a first overall pick that has amounted to nothing for 7 years, and we lost a perennial all star going into his prime for nothing.
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He sucks. He's not very good.

In fact his game exactly like Demar pre-trade, with more mid range jumpshots, less free throws, layups and much less playmaking, passing. Save for fourth quarter scoring.

In fact, since he's arrived here, Demar has been better & looked like the better player, statistically.

So why are we paying 8-9 million more for a similar, worse version of a guy we already have signed on contract?

Oh yea, same reason why we have a first overall pick that has amounted to nothing for 7 years, and we lost a perennial all star going into his prime for nothing.
demar can't hit a game winning shot. Gay just needs to not be given an absolute green light and full choice over his shot selection.... we need to not cater to our good players.... it's the same reason DD shoots way too many fadeaways. Where is the coach?
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demar can't hit a game winning shot. Gay just needs to not be given an absolute green light and full choice over his shot selection.... we need to not cater to our good players.... it's the same reason DD shoots way too many fadeaways. Where is the coach?
I doubt it will make a difference. he seems like a one trick pony, who struggles to create good shots for himself.

Not very good at anything but taking & making long contested 2's.
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