Rudy Gay looking to play closer to the rim?
Old 08-28-2013, 03:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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One of the biggest criticisms around Rudy Gay's game is that he settles too much. He's a 6-foot-9 jumpshooter that doesn't use his size or athleticism enough.

So he's doing something about it and seeking counsel from one of the game's greats, Hakeem Olajuwon.Now, you might be wondering why Gay would work with Olajuwon since he's not a big man. But remember, both Kobe Bryant and LeBron James put in time with Olajuwon as well.

It's not uncommon for a small forward or guard to hone some post moves. Because we've all seen what it's done for both Kobe and LeBron.Last season, Gay took only 1.8 shots of his overall 16.7 per game from 3-9 feet.

The bulk of his attempts were from 16-23 feet or from 3.So obviously, he's trying to focus in a bit at trying to become a bit more efficient with his shot selection and to do so, he's got to learn the skills. And getting them from The Dream is a pretty good start.
VIDEO: Rudy Gay works out with Hakeem Olajuwon - CBSSports.com
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Old 08-28-2013, 04:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Damn that's music to my ears. Derozan and Rudy might play even better of each other this season
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Old 08-28-2013, 06:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wait, how does this help us get Wiggins? Lol, j/k.

Actually he looked pretty fluid with that spin move. It's surprising how mechanical some of these guys (Amare, Brook & Robin Lopez, Dwight, Lebron) look in their training videos with 40+ year old Hakeem. I though Kobe was the only guy that actually looked like the moves came naturally enough to be able to use it in an actual game.
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Old 08-28-2013, 07:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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here's the thing, gay has the talent to be a world class player, it's the way he plays that's holding him back. If he would play the right away, it would make it a lot easier to get over losing a guy like wiggins.
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This might be one of those things that sounds better in theory than it works in practice.

We already have JV and Amir playing a lot of time in the post. If Rudy falls too much in love with post play, we'll get awfully jammed up down there and become easier to defend.

Rudy has to use the post moves as a threat that will open up the other parts of his game. I'm happy if he improves his 3 pt shot and uses the threat of post moves to set up JV and Amir for easy two's. That and better ball movement will help the team more.
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This might be one of those things that sounds better in theory than it works in practice.

We already have JV and Amir playing a lot of time in the post. If Rudy falls too much in love with post play, we'll get awfully jammed up down there and become easier to defend.

Rudy has to use the post moves as a threat that will open up the other parts of his game. I'm happy if he improves his 3 pt shot and uses the threat of post moves to set up JV and Amir for easy two's. That and better ball movement will help the team more.


This is a valid point. He can play close to the rim if and when we go small ball, but he better work on his 3's.
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This might be one of those things that sounds better in theory than it works in practice.

We already have JV and Amir playing a lot of time in the post. If Rudy falls too much in love with post play, we'll get awfully jammed up down there and become easier to defend.

Rudy has to use the post moves as a threat that will open up the other parts of his game. I'm happy if he improves his 3 pt shot and uses the threat of post moves to set up JV and Amir for easy two's. That and better ball movement will help the team more.
Amir doesn't work in the post! He operates on pick & rolls and only a couple per game. The rest of Amir's game is pure hustle.

I don't see Gay playing more post game effecting our bigs at all
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It can only work if Derozan learns how to shoot 3's, because Novak is not gonna stretch the floor while sitting on the bench!
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It can only work if Derozan learns how to shoot 3's, because Novak is not gonna stretch the floor while sitting on the bench!
Get ready, because I have a feeling Novak will play more minutes than most think. Casey is going to infuriate, mark my words.
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This might be one of those things that sounds better in theory than it works in practice.

We already have JV and Amir playing a lot of time in the post. If Rudy falls too much in love with post play, we'll get awfully jammed up down there and become easier to defend.

Rudy has to use the post moves as a threat that will open up the other parts of his game. I'm happy if he improves his 3 pt shot and uses the threat of post moves to set up JV and Amir for easy two's. That and better ball movement will help the team more.
gay can play PF if he's willing to bang, not against all teams and not full time, only when it matters. Both Amir and JV have a decent jumper that will only get better.

I'm a lot more concerned about seeing this happening, every summer every player says they want to learn to play in the post and every team commits to run more ...
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This is a valid point. He can play close to the rim if and when we go small ball, but he better work on his 3's.
Yes, the lakers do not have forwards or centres on their team.
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Get ready, because I have a feeling Novak will play more minutes than most think. Casey is going to infuriate, mark my words.
The thing is that we would have very little to no floor spacing with starting 5 of
JV
Amir
Gay
DD
Lowry (only person capable of shooting 3's)
And that is not a recipe for success imo. We would need to get rid of DD or get one of those stretch 4's, I heard that Bargnani guy can hit 3's maybe we should trade for him?
Seriously though we would have to play something like:
JV
Gay
Novak
DD
Lowry
And I get nauseous just from the idea of Novak starting..
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The thing is that we would have very little to no floor spacing with starting 5 of
JV
Amir
Gay
DD
Lowry (only person capable of shooting 3's)
And that is not a recipe for success imo. We would need to get rid of DD or get one of those stretch 4's, I heard that Bargnani guy can hit 3's maybe we should trade for him?
Seriously though we would have to play something like:
JV
Gay
Novak
DD
Lowry
And I get nauseous just from the idea of Novak starting..
Novak won't start, but Acy won't get many minutes unless there are injury issues.
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Novak won't start, but Acy won't get many minutes unless there are injury issues.
I think you're wrong there. Not about Novak, he'll always come off the bench. Rather, I think Acy will be given a legit shot whenever you see Fields, Novak, Amir or maybe even Ross having a poor night. He actually has a mid-range shot and is a great hustle defender/rebounder.
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just because he's working out with hakeem does not mean he will be pounding down low all season taking away shots from JV and our bigs. it's just working on another facet of his game, about time we saw some versatility in him rather than the typical drop off to gay top of the arc and wait for him to perform.
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I think you're wrong there. Not about Novak, he'll always come off the bench. Rather, I think Acy will be given a legit shot whenever you see Fields, Novak, Amir or maybe even Ross having a poor night. He actually has a mid-range shot and is a great hustle defender/rebounder.
Acy will get the crumbs.

Amir/TH/Novak/Gay will all play most of the minutes at the 4.
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Good news but it'd be better if he became consistent from 3 point land. The only 3 point shooter in the starting 5 is KL and I think there's a better chance of RG becoming a decent 3 point shooter again than DD magically getting better after 4 years with under 30 % from 3. You need 2 to 4 players who can shoot the 3 in your starting 5.
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Yes, the lakers do not have forwards or centres on their team.
The difference is that they can shoot 3's and Pau can easily play away from the basket. Except Lowry none of our starters is a 3 point threat.
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good defense to quick offense should be our main priority having players like DD and Gay, not to mention that our bigs can run the floor well too.
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