Rudy Gay on ESPN First Take: Are The Heat In Trouble?
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What does Rudy think? - I'm at work and can't watch the video.
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What does Rudy think? - I'm at work and can't watch the video.
-Doesn't think Miami is in trouble, others just have to pick up their play. You can't rely on one player. Wade's been hurt, and Allen and Chalmers have been inconsistent.

Smith: "Are you suprised that there hasn't been a game where Wade has been the definitive second best player"

Rudy: paraphrase - well, he's hurt, we know that. But at some point he has to elevate his game to the level we know he can play at.

Skip Bayless rambles about Wade's knee and Bosh's ankle....

Smith - Bosh was fine after the game. Wade had elevated real high for dunk in 4th quarter and from the point forward he was pacing himself, and only pushing in spot moments, but smith thinks he'll be fine next game, although not 100%.
Apparently Lebron has stepped in and doesn't want anyone to talk about the injuries.

Smith "the bone bruise (Wade) ain't getting better, but not worse". Smith claims this is having a psychological effect on Wade. He thinks it might be messing with Wade because he is pacing himself, disrupting rhythym.

"If I'm wrong, Rudy, please tell me"

Rudy: agrees "you're right, you're right. The fact that you're out there with your teamates, you try to block it out and tell your teamates you're alright and with them...". "At this point in the year everybody is dealing with something"

Smith talking about Wade playing decent defense on George. Smith claims part of the reason the Heat are dismissive of Wade's injury is because he impacts the game aside from just scoring and his defense on George has been good.

They ask Rudy to predict series. He says Heat in 7.

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I'm happy to see the Raps included in this discussion.
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Old 05-29-2013, 06:32 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Old 05-29-2013, 11:28 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Damn that dude talk a lot. Rudy and the other guy barely got a chance to speak lol
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lmao I love how Smith always says Skip talks too much and he basically talked for the whole segment here.
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its a shame the grizz traded gay, he could have been the difference between winning and losing with the spurs

would you rather have a core 3 of

Randolph, gasol, and conley or gay, gasol, and conley


I would go with gay, gasol and conley,

Wallace, Hollinger and that management team made a massive mistake long term

but I aint mad thanks for that free allstar pretty much replacing Bosh and the disappointment that Bargnani created, rudy fixes all those issues

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Gay wasn't working at memphis. No space for him to operate in the paint. Conley, gasol and randolph is a great trio, they just came up against an inspired spurs team and 2 games went to OT. Memphis need to add outside shooting.
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No they lost cause they doubled Gasol and Zach. Which Thunder's coach is too stupid to do. They lost cause the brick combo of Allen and Prince were really easy to contain.
Conley is good but he's overrated, compared to the point guards he has to go against(If Westbrook was not injured), he's worse then all of them. Mem only got where they are cause they went against incapable coaches and ofcourse Thunder didn't have their 1b, Westbrook.
On the series and their 'great defense'
Allen: 8 ppg 8 fga on 37.5 fg% 1.3 steals 0.3 blocks
Prince: 5.8 ppg 6fga on 36 fg% 0.5 steals 0.3 blocks

That's pathetic, and they still were able to get to over-time in what, 2 games? Rudy > Allen +Prince TOGETHER.

What were the spurs missing in the series? A guy who can take and make shots in the end of quarters, and offence from the perimeter to take off the defense of the Bigs. Aka Rudy Gay.
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Memphis needs to find a legit 3pt shooter who won't destroy their defense. Someone like Francisco Garcia this summer would do it. Or Gerald Henderson, if he could be had for midlevel.

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Are the Pacers even mentioned? NO ONE is giving them a chance. GO PACERS!!
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Well... there are more people who think that Pacers will win in 7 then there is people who think Heat will win in 7 (Nba.com poll)
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Well... there are more people who think that Pacers will win in 7 then there is people who think Heat will win in 7 (Nba.com poll)
i assume 99 % of people picked the Heat in 4 and the other 1% chose Pacers in 7?
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Heat in 6 - 67k
Heat in 7 - 39k
Pacers in 6 - 31k
Pacers in 7 - 55k

Soo 55% for Heat 45% for Pacers

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Pacers in 7.
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Wow, there are people that think the grizzlies aren't good and that brooks is incompetent!? I find that amazing.
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Brooks love for Perkins (and his negative PER) is equivalent or worse than Casey bringing in Rasul Butler in the last seconds, or constantly starting Andrea and giving him starter role no matter how bad he is. Choices which NEVER are the cause for a win nor result into one, it hurts the team.. only difference is Andrea can get hot, Perkins can't do shit and makes his team worse for every second he's out according to stats... yet he's starter. Incompetent.
Plus no double teaming the only threats on Memphis when you got Mr.negative PER on them...? tell me how that's not stupid? Might be cause Allen and Prince can get so hot from three. Grizzlies are a good team, but OKC should have still beat them. After finals last year it seems Brooks is riding the athleticism, not smarts (for defense) and MVP star players of his team.


Conley' s good enough to run the offense. But he's the only guy on the perimeter for them and he's streaky when it comes to scoring. Think he shoots under 30 % from three and under 40 from the field. He contributes practically no matter what whether that's assist or scoring, which makes him good but he's not known to be offensive savy.
You double the bigs and their offense struggles even more so then it does naturally... they're known for defense obviously, but similar to all-offensive teams, one dimension teams like the Grizzlies can lead you only so far. If LAC or OKC doubled the post they could have won against Grizzlies. The Grizz needed a offensive perimeter guy, Rudy Gay. Conley is good, but worse then who he has to go against, Paul, Westbrook- if he played-, Curry, Lawson. Only point guard he can beat in the western playoffs is Lin and Nash. If they had Rudy I can see them making a more serious run at the championship then they just had, cause doubling bigs would of meant they had to defend Rudy Gay and Conley in the perimeter.

The record whenever Gasol and Randolph get 20 points the team is
Gasol: 5-1
Randolph : 6-0
and guess what? The Mem NEVER won a game this year in the playoffs where either scored less than 20. And as I mentioned only lost ONE game where either scored over 20, which they lost only by 2.
And guess which team is the only team which really doubled the Grizz? Spurs. And neither ever scored 20 against the spurs, and they never won one game.

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Rudy Gay is not much of a perimeter guy. The Spurs would be happy to have Gay shoot a bunch of long 2s. Someone like Batum would've been perfect for them though.

Is the argument here "Gay is a good player, he would've helped"? i agree. Or is the argument "they should've traded ZBO instead"? In that case i don't know. I probably disagree, though ZBO's health/decline give me a pause. Btw, we don't really know if that was even available. Are teams lining up to take on a former headcase on a huge contract who's dealing with health issues?

But that said, the Grizzlies ran into a better team this time. It's a bit fluky that they were swept, considering two games were tied at the end of regulation. But overall, the Spurs have more talent.
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Rudy Gay is not much of a perimeter guy. The Spurs would be happy to have Gay shoot a bunch of long 2s. Someone like Batum would've been perfect for them though.

Is the argument here "Gay is a good player, he would've helped"? i agree. Or is the argument "they should've traded ZBO instead"? In that case i don't know. I probably disagree, though ZBO's health/decline give me a pause. Btw, we don't really know if that was even available. Are teams lining up to take on a former headcase on a huge contract who's dealing with health issues?

But that said, the Grizzlies ran into a better team this time. It's a bit fluky that they were swept, considering two games were tied at the end of regulation. But overall, the Spurs have more talent.
The keep Z-BO or Rudy question is difficult to answer fairly because we don't know what Memphis could get back for Z-BO.
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