Rudy gay bans stat sheets in the lockeroom

firecasey2013 · 11-25-2013, 09:13 PM

irony

rapsmannn · 11-25-2013, 09:47 PM

how long does it take for demar to pull out his smart phone and check the box score,

maybe this is a way where rudy and demar can shoot more and not get the teammates all pissed off

anyways media should asking all stats related questions all the damn time just to piss the Raptors off, it would be to funny

fantapoppa · 11-25-2013, 10:05 PM

Ban smart phones in the locker room :mu:

Shifty.py · 11-26-2013, 12:58 AM

Its done so no player looks at stat sheet in puzzlement over minute allocation by Casey
To avoid seeing something like JV 5-5 8 rebounds, 3 minutes in 2nd half
Or Hansborough -7, Steve Novak +15... what?

RAPMAN · 11-26-2013, 01:57 AM

So the guy plays sick, missed shootaround, trying to catch his breath during the game. When the game is on the line, he scores the team's last nine points during crunch time. That shows leadership on the court, and some posters complain about his FG%. Get a life. It was a good article, but the original poster left out the ending of the article:

"DeMar DeRozan had a big first half allowing Gay to ease into the game and figure out what he was capable of doing given his unhealthy state. In the fourth, when DeRozan started to falter it was Gay who picked it up scoring with 11 in the fourth quarter to help seal the win.

Both men ended up with 17 on the night but that number was irrelevant as far as Gay was concerned.

The Raptors got win No. 6 and that was the only number that mattered. And he didn’t need a scoresheet to tell him that."

Carlito · 11-26-2013, 06:36 AM

Leadership is about walking the talk .... 100% of the time ... NOT SOMETIMES.
Rudy is talking (that's okay) ... can he 100% do the walk?
He clearly has the talent, not sure he understands how influential his play can be if he consistently plays good team ball. I'm hoping he matures. He has the ability to be a very effective defender and has the ability to get some serious assists ... He needs to stop forcing his shots and turnovers when he keeps the ball low on his dribbles or on double teams. Can he improve and be consistent?

**fancylad** · 11-26-2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadowfax

i've been very critical of Gay since the beginning of this season but i think all you guys are being a little too cynical here
i view this statement as a guy who's trying to be a leader...a guy who's trying to bring this unit closer together

i like it

I agree with you. any time someone within the team denounces individual stats in favor of the good of the team it's a good thing.

but you have to admit the irony of this situation (as has been pointed out by many) is pretty funny. My first instinct when i read the headline was to be cynical as well.

**Ball Don't Lie** · 11-26-2013, 11:55 AM

I couldn't stop laughing the first time I read this. I can't wait until Masai trades Rudy next month.

tyguy94 · 11-26-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ball Don't Lie

I couldn't stop laughing the first time I read this. I can't wait until Masai trades Rudy next month.

Haha I hope so man. I wish we could've gotten Derrick Williams since he was traded for practically nothing

Owned · 11-26-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by box1992

The thing is though, when he is passing the ball, he can get around 4-5 assists as well as 15-18 pts much more efficiently. Demar has been playing great. I really think Ross and Demar should focus on the shooting and giving it to JV in the post as much as possible. Gay will get his points without needing to shoot so much when every one else is scoring. He can focus on facilitating and getting his rebounds which he has done very well this season

Preach it, brother.
Gay needs to learn he'll get his points a lot easier when he's not forcing his game, and his team is fighting for scraps (bad shots).

RAPMAN · 11-26-2013, 03:45 PM

If Rudy ever gets traded, we are a lottery team. Derozan becomes option no. 1 (we know how that works out),Lowry plays Hero ball, and this team breaks down during crunch time.

TORaptor4Ever · 11-26-2013, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ball Don't Lie

I couldn't stop laughing the first time I read this. I can't wait until Masai trades Rudy next month.

This.

Hey Rudy.... how about you can the empty gestures and just... you know... look to PASS the ball more rather than jacking it up 20+ times a game.

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Originally Posted by RAPMAN

If Rudy ever gets traded, we are a lottery team. Derozan becomes option no. 1 (we know how that works out),Lowry plays Hero ball, and this team breaks down during crunch time.

I don't see it that way at all. Give JV and Lowry Rudy's shots.... perhaps Ross and Novak too.

**fancylad** · 11-26-2013, 09:12 PM

L.O.L.

LX · 11-26-2013, 09:18 PM

I'm good with tanking to whatever extent losing Rudy might mean if we can just lose the fucker. Keep the rest and you have something. Another BC albatross.

Nyall · 11-26-2013, 09:29 PM

That's not all that surprising. Rudy Gay isn't a franchise player nor a leader. How does the team become more united by this? He's probably heard one too many, "We lost because you don't pass the fucking ball and jack up as many shots as possible" arguments..

It really doesn't matter if he's clutch. We wouldn't even have needed him to be clutch in those games had he distributed the ball more and didn't attempt and miss so many shots, in the first place.

LX · 11-26-2013, 09:37 PM

7 turnovers? What 7 turnovers?

It feels like they are playing 4 on 6 when he's out there.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu · 11-26-2013, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LX

I'm good with tanking to whatever extent losing Rudy might mean if we can just lose the fucker. Keep the rest and you have something. Another BC albatross.

theres almost no way to trade the sack of shit right now unless we go striaght up for amare or give up picks.

Can we amnesty him at year end in any way?

carp · 11-26-2013, 09:39 PM

why we hatin on Rudy? It was a sloppy game all around.

JoeyJoJo Shabbadu · 11-26-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by carp

why we hatin on Rudy? It was a sloppy game all around.

youre trolling for sure

LX · 11-26-2013, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by carp

why we hatin on Rudy? It was a sloppy game all around.

Please profess how one-dimensional DeMar's statline is. And Lowry sucked right?

As a team they weren't terribly sharp, but Rudy just killed their chances. Ross takes his minutes and this is a win.

11-26-2013, 01:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
RAPMAN is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,816 Representing:	So the guy plays sick, missed shootaround, trying to catch his breath during the game. When the game is on the line, he scores the team's last nine points during crunch time. That shows leadership on the court, and some posters complain about his FG%. Get a life. It was a good article, but the original poster left out the ending of the article: "DeMar DeRozan had a big first half allowing Gay to ease into the game and figure out what he was capable of doing given his unhealthy state. In the fourth, when DeRozan started to falter it was Gay who picked it up scoring with 11 in the fourth quarter to help seal the win. Both men ended up with 17 on the night but that number was irrelevant as far as Gay was concerned. The Raptors got win No. 6 and that was the only number that mattered. And he didn’t need a scoresheet to tell him that." Last edited by RAPMAN; 11-26-2013 at 02:03 AM.

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Shifty.py Kill Casey FTMFW Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 3,763 Representing:	Its done so no player looks at stat sheet in puzzlement over minute allocation by Casey To avoid seeing something like JV 5-5 8 rebounds, 3 minutes in 2nd half Or Hansborough -7, Steve Novak +15... what?

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Carlito is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 6,765 Representing:	Leadership is about walking the talk .... 100% of the time ... NOT SOMETIMES. Rudy is talking (that's okay) ... can he 100% do the walk? He clearly has the talent, not sure he understands how influential his play can be if he consistently plays good team ball. I'm hoping he matures. He has the ability to be a very effective defender and has the ability to get some serious assists ... He needs to stop forcing his shots and turnovers when he keeps the ball low on his dribbles or on double teams. Can he improve and be consistent?

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Ball Don't Lie ... Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,161 Representing:	I couldn't stop laughing the first time I read this. I can't wait until Masai trades Rudy next month.

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RAPMAN is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,816 Representing:	If Rudy ever gets traded, we are a lottery team. Derozan becomes option no. 1 (we know how that works out),Lowry plays Hero ball, and this team breaks down during crunch time.

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fancylad blah! nosce te ipsum Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: east side. Posts: 13,266 Representing:	L.O.L.

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LX effin' ineffable In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 30,070 Representing:	I'm good with tanking to whatever extent losing Rudy might mean if we can just lose the fucker. Keep the rest and you have something. Another BC albatross.

11-26-2013, 09:29 PM	#35 (permalink)
Nyall is pounding the rock! Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 145 Representing:	That's not all that surprising. Rudy Gay isn't a franchise player nor a leader. How does the team become more united by this? He's probably heard one too many, "We lost because you don't pass the fucking ball and jack up as many shots as possible" arguments.. It really doesn't matter if he's clutch. We wouldn't even have needed him to be clutch in those games had he distributed the ball more and didn't attempt and miss so many shots, in the first place.

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LX effin' ineffable In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 30,070 Representing:	7 turnovers? What 7 turnovers? It feels like they are playing 4 on 6 when he's out there.

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carp . Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 11,510 Representing:	why we hatin on Rudy? It was a sloppy game all around.