Rosen: Raptors have plenty of O, not enough D
Old 11-05-2009, 10:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Some of things he observed. For the complete goods, check out the article.

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Even minus the services of two key players — Tayshaun Prince and Rip Hamilton — the shorthanded Pistons put up a gutsy fight before succumbing to the home-standing Raptors. Not surprisingly, the game presented ample evidence as to what's right and what's wrong with Toronto.
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On the positive side of the ledger:
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The muscle that Chris Bosh added during the offseason has made him a more forceful scoring threat both in the low post and along the baseline. Bosh also moved astutely without the ball.
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Andrea Bargnani will always be a dead-eye long-range shooter but has added a convincing up-fake-dribble-and-shoot move. He even took a turn in the pivot, scoring on an old-fashioned hook.
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Jarrett Jack relentlessly attacked the basket for profit. At the point, he provided much more energy than Calderon, and he closed the game with some excellent play at the two-guard slot.

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On the other side of the ledger, the Raptors showed several critical vulnerabilities.

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Literally everybody who played was beaten off the dribble whenever the Pistons could create sufficient time and space for their guards to attack the hoop. Bargnani was the worst offender here, with Belinelli a close second.

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Bargnani committed three hideous turnovers when he tried to pass the ball while he was moving.
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For the most part, Bosh was passive on defense.
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On four occasions, the Pistons were able to split double teams and get into the paint.

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Old 11-05-2009, 10:12 AM   #2 (permalink)
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He doesnt like foreign guys.

I guess he missed the sweet dimes Bargs had.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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There you go - like I said the other day - the guy has some good articles in him. But he's way better at relating what he sees in actual games then he is at rating players or making generalizations about teams based on what he has seen in one or two particular games.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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He doesnt like foreign guys.

I guess he missed the sweet dimes Bargs had.
He seems to like Hedo pretty well.

The comments about Bargnani and Belinelli were likely attributed to their play at the start of the game, which could very well be hard to look past when they both played better later on.
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I guess, I didnt see anything more than the highlights.

I'm just talking rosen shit
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Old 11-05-2009, 10:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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That's the thing that I like about the old fart. He doesn't care much for the highlights. It's almost to the point of being pathological, but it's a good antidote to a league that puts too much emphasis on that stuff.

And if you read further down - he actually disses Americans when he says he would like to go to dinner with Nash, because he isn't steeped in typical American culture.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In other news, water is wet.
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I hate to say it but he is dead on point!
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Old 11-05-2009, 01:32 PM   #9 (permalink)
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this guy is off his rocker .. Bargnani only had 2 TOs the whole game ... off the dribble on the perimeter?? Does he know that Bargnani is a center and not a perimeter defender??
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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One thing I noticed last night is we're fucking lazy when closing out to shooters at the 3 pt line even against a bad shooting 3 pt team. Theres no way Will Bynum should have an open look at a 3 in the 4th, but our guys run soft out to the 3 pt shooters fearing the drive I guess.

One thing I did like is in the last 5 minutes the intensity picked up, and Bosh especially ran HARD out to the corner shooters(Bynum once and Gordon the other time) making them put it on the floor. This needs to happen all of the time THE ENTIRE GAME. You have to rely on your help defence to win you games, and as we all know, many teams are really really good 3 pt shooting teams. Theres clogging the middle and theres stupidity in leaving guys wide open, the Raptors toe that line way too often.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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They did a nice job of closing out against Cleveland at times as well. The idea is there, they just have to execute. Mostly they need to be able to start to rotate back out to the shooters as the pass is being made.
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Old 11-05-2009, 04:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The part about Bargs being the worst offender in terms of being beat off the dribble is true, but only when he had to guard villinueva. Very tough cover for Bargs b/c Charlie V is smaller with quicker feet. Other then that, when he has guys his size or bigger on him I like his defense.
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Old 11-06-2009, 04:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Can never have too much "O"

Some "D" is eventually required unfortunately!
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:12 PM   #14 (permalink)
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In other news, water is wet.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:15 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Raps defense is more offense
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The part about Bargs getting beat off the dribble relates, I think, to his play on pick and rolls. When they attempted to trap the dribbler, the player would dribble right between them. When they switched and Bargnani took the ball-handler, he got beat fairly regularly.

I agree, though: this is a case of "water is wet".
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