Rose and Simmons talk about Rudy Gay
Old 12-05-2013, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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They nominate him as Least Valuable Player, along with Bennett. Man they realy have a point about Cleveland and their picks.


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Old 12-05-2013, 07:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jesus, they're right can you imagine if they chose Drummond instead of Waiters and Oladipo instead of Bennett. Maybe trade us Varajeo for Gay? lol



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Old 12-05-2013, 07:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Jesus, they're right can you imagine if they chose Drummond instead of Waiters and Oladipo instead of Bennett. Maybe trade us Varajeo for Gay? lol



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Gay would probably destroy that team like he destroyed ours.
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Old 12-05-2013, 07:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Gay would probably destroy that team like he destroyed ours.
Ok, no trade then. That is some nice talent. And imo, and i said this a couple days ago, they should have taken Drummond @ #4 instead of Waiters. Bennett at #1 right now looks like a massive blunder and waiters might be on the block. They're not far from bordering on disaster imo.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I actually agree with Jalen I think they should get rid of hack a shaq rule. It's their fault that they can't shoot ft's.
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Old 12-05-2013, 09:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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they've could've had Harrison barnes instead of waiters which I thought at the time barnes was the better player and it made sense because kyrie and barnes are great friends,

and during the draft the only guaranteed player that was going to be a player was oladipo everyone else had maybe, or great talent, but this guy was a cant miss player who invited the fact of being no 1 overall pick

plus the fact that before that draft that barnes and oladipo are great character guys where waiters and Bennett are known for there own issues before they were drafted, with waiters being difficult with teammates and Bennett with the weight issue

so there team could've been

irving
oladipo
barnes
Thompson
Verajao

that's a great young team ready to take on the league in the future, plus insulates irvings horrible defense with 4 players that can d up

there is no way Drummond would've been selected with the 5th pick he went 9th, so he wasn't even in the draft radar at that point especially with the bigs they already have, there choice came down to waiters vs barnes

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there is no way Drummond would've been selected with the 5th pick he went 9th, so he wasn't even in the draft radar at that point especially with the bigs they already have, there choice came down to waiters vs barnes
Drummond was projected to be top 4-5.
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Jesus, they're right can you imagine if they chose Drummond instead of Waiters and Oladipo instead of Bennett. Maybe trade us Varajeo for Gay? lol



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and JV instead of thompson ...
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Drummond was projected to be top 4-5.
ya but before the draft his draft stock fell considerably, where as waiters and ross climbed before the draft, I'm talking about the decision that the cavs were in, they weren't deciding between Drummond and waiters to draft, the gm was trying decide to pick between barnes and waiters
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I actually agree with Jalen I think they should get rid of hack a shaq rule. It's their fault that they can't shoot ft's.
Remove what rule?
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Remove what rule?
Wilt Chamberlain off-the-ball foul rule
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I agree with Simmons, any off the ball foul which is done in order to put a bad FT shooter on the line (ie: Drummond, Howard), the team of the fouled player gets to choose to either take the two FT's or inbound with a 14sec shot clock and the foul still goes against that player no matter what option is chosen. Sounds good to me
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I agree with Simmons, any off the ball foul which is done in order to put a bad FT shooter on the line (ie: Drummond, Howard), the team of the fouled player gets to choose to either take the two FT's or inbound with a 14sec shot clock and the foul still goes against that player no matter what option is chosen. Sounds good to me
Yea that would be good too
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I know I'm going to get hate for this.. But the problem that I have with this rule is that it is created to cover weakness of a player, but why though? If your player is not good enough for whatever reason to stay late in the game that is his problem and it is up to coach to decide if he should play or not.
It's like Raptors playing Heat and I like Novak late in the game on the floor because he can shoot 3's, but he can't defend to save his life. Am I going to keep him and hope that Lebron is not going to attack him? Is nba going to make a rule saying that you can't drive on Novak late in the game?
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I know I'm going to get hate for this.. But the problem that I have with this rule is that it is created to cover weakness of a player, but why though? If your player is not good enough for whatever reason to stay late in the game that is his problem and it is up to coach to decide if he should play or not.
It's like Raptors playing Heat and I like Novak late in the game on the floor because he can shoot 3's, but he can't defend to save his life. Am I going to keep him and hope that Lebron is not going to attack him? Is nba going to make a rule saying that you can't drive on Novak late in the game?
I agree with this. If you can't hit your free throws, sit down.
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and JV instead of thompson ...
I don't think they went wrong with Thompson, he could turn to be Antonio Davis type of player
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I agree with Simmons, any off the ball foul which is done in order to put a bad FT shooter on the line (ie: Drummond, Howard), the team of the fouled player gets to choose to either take the two FT's or inbound with a 14sec shot clock and the foul still goes against that player no matter what option is chosen. Sounds good to me
I somewhat agree with this, though the only thing I would change is the team of the fouled player would get to choose to either take the two FT's or inbound with whatever time is remaining on the shot clock. Most teams that do the hack a bad FT shooter foul do it in the first few seconds of the shot clock. No need to reduce the shot clock time to 14 seconds on the potential inbound if the foul was committed with 21 seconds left on the shot clock
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I actually agree with Jalen I think they should get rid of hack a shaq rule. It's their fault that they can't shoot ft's.
But then we'd have more of Dwight grinning at the line and then doing a 10 second FT routine... I don't know that I can take it. My love for basketball is strong, but maybe not that strong.
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Suggestion; I there is an off the ball foul, the player with the ball should shoot 2 not the player that was fouled.
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