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Old 04-23-2009, 01:56 AM   #21 (permalink)
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im not sure if this is right or not, but from reading doug smith's in-game blog, roko has a tendency to drive too much. in other words he will try to score without really having any intentions of passing the ball. I think thats a reason why the offence seems to stop when ever roko is in the game. can raps teach roko to pass more or is it his personality. Thats why i don't really see him as a good point guard for the raps. if he can become a sg, i think that will better suit him
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:54 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Presumably he's been given a list of things to improve on and he's a gym rat, so let's see what he comes back like first.
You'd think that previous coaches would have told him to work on his shot, no? It's a sin to shoot as bad as he does as an NBA player.
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im not sure if this is right or not, but from reading doug smith's in-game blog, roko has a tendency to drive too much. in other words he will try to score without really having any intentions of passing the ball. I think thats a reason why the offence seems to stop when ever roko is in the game. can raps teach roko to pass more or is it his personality. Thats why i don't really see him as a good point guard for the raps. if he can become a sg, i think that will better suit him
Great points, but I personally think it's more due to him seeing a lack of PT, espescially when Parker came in.

I think back to Joey Graham, where he began to believe that if he wanted to play he needed to score, to have something tangible to show the coaches. The same I think has/had happened to Roko. When he started early on, he was a good facilitator and tried to create for other players.

With Triano, the pt was significantly cut, he began to overthink his role and well, never really saw the floor again.

He has a ton of work to do, but I do see alot of promise in him. It's really all dependent upon how much work HE decides to put into.
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:12 AM   #24 (permalink)
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hge has got the ultimate teacher of jumpers starting ahead of him, a guy that struggled with his jumper when he came into the league, can you really think of a more ideal situation for a young player to come in and learn from somebody??
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Old 04-23-2009, 11:57 AM   #25 (permalink)
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roko cant shoot.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I dont ge it, this isn't the d-league.

If he can't play at the NBA level, why is everyone so excited about him.

In one breath half of you are asking for BC's head because you want success, then in the next, you move to a new thread and suggest we keep using guys that are simply not ready to be in the NBA.

And I'm sorry, for the dude that thinks being able to shoot as a shooting guard in the NBA is over rated.... wow.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:18 PM   #27 (permalink)
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joses shot wasnt good his 1st year, should we have sent him to the d league?
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:30 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Andre Miller has carved out a pretty good career for himself and he can't hit the broad side of the barn.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:37 PM   #29 (permalink)
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thats all fine, but if were saying it's ok to have him basically as a back up or platoon 2 guard, then do not ever cmplain about missing the playoffs, as clearly, we are in perpetual rebuild mode.

the only real thing killing this team at this poin this a lack of a super star scoring guard. If one isn't on its way, through raft or trade, this team is goin gbackwards fast. Mark my words. Marion ----> gone. Bosh-----> Gone. Bargnani-----> not a lock to stay, trust. jose------> he might stay.
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Old 04-23-2009, 12:43 PM   #30 (permalink)
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during the season jack and co. would mention how jose wasn't a good shooter as a rookie but got better. however, jose was a good shooter in europe. roko has never been a good shooter.

hopefully he gets better. i like the kid. he doesn't have to be a dead-eye shooter but does need to get better. if he can improve his shot and come back stronger, i think he'll be ok.

collangelo did make it sound like he would try and bring in a vet. there will be a good choice of pointguards in the draft. a lottery pointguard wouldn't bode well for roko's future in toronto.

by the way, bc made no mention of banks. and no-one asked about him. we owe the guy $9,000,000 over the next couple seasons. it'd suck if he can't be used somehow.
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Old 04-23-2009, 02:59 PM   #31 (permalink)
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wow, i completly forgot about banks. i dont know if it is because he doesnt want to play for the Raptors or he just isn't that good, but he played like crap whenever he was on the court last season. At this point i don't know if raps should keep him, but than there arn't a lot of teams that want him if any at all.
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Old 04-23-2009, 03:45 PM   #32 (permalink)
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joses shot wasnt good his 1st year, should we have sent him to the d league?

Jose shot 43% from the field in his rookie season.
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jeff is right. his issues were straight up game play confidence. dude could always shoot, it's just much harder to do when you're green behind the ears and pissing your pants.

Roko aint much scared, he just sucks.
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Old 04-23-2009, 08:49 PM   #34 (permalink)
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thats all fine, but if were saying it's ok to have him basically as a back up or platoon 2 guard, then do not ever cmplain about missing the playoffs, as clearly, we are in perpetual rebuild mode.
Yeah, it's not like top tier playoff teams are incapable of developing young players while also winning games. I forgot that's completely impossible.

But that's not to say that we aren't in semi-rebuilding mode anyway...
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:06 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:49 AM   #36 (permalink)
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6'5 is not 'tall' for a SG. It's barely there. Ukic is a 10 mpg type of guy at most. He's young though and he could be developed to be a decent backup one day.
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6'5 is not 'tall' for a SG. It's barely there. Ukic is a 10 mpg type of guy at most. He's young though and he could be developed to be a decent backup one day.
He's not THAT young
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:27 AM   #38 (permalink)
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He sucks, but it's all because of the shot. If he manages to develop something there, it could be like night and day. I just wish this team didn't have so many guys just like that, with a need to make a big jump in their overall abilities.
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It's true though, Jose was in the same situation coming out of his first year in the league. People knew the kid had talent but teams only had to guard him on the drive because he hadn't earned any respect on his jump shot.

So he develops a shot in the off-season and BAM - he's as effective as point guards come.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:49 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Roko is really good at driving to the basket but DAMNNN the guy can't shoot. If we could somehow fuse Roko with Jose then we got a top 3 point guard.
dude, hes a rookie
do u remember jose's jump shot way back then? i try not to...
i dont know why bc is all over him, hes a rookie after all. keepp him.
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