Rogers vs. TSN2: It's TSN's Fault
Old 02-10-2009, 09:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Not sure if this was posted but yesterday I was listening to Bob Mcown and he had a Rogers guy he was interviewing. He asked him about TSN2 and the reason they havent got it yet is that TSN wants TSN2 to be part of the regular package and the cost is such that Rogers does not want to pass the cost of that onto the customer.

Rogers would agree in a heartbeat to TSN2 being on a pay as you go digital channel or on the Sports Pack but TSN does not want that. I think this makes it more of TSN's fault. Why dont they agree to just be on a digital channel and let whoever wants it pay for it? Next year I think MLSE should force TSN to put all Raptors channels on regular TSN or not give them the rights at all. I'd rather it be on Raptors TV than this TSN2 nonsense.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:37 AM   #2 (permalink)
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actually thats pretty interesting.

I've always said all along that the only way i would ever get TSN2 on my TV would be if it was part of the regular cable package and that's it.

no way am i paying more for some digital cable channel.

In this case, i hope TSN wins the fight.

My mind is made up: Rogers = cunts.
but hey, we all knew this before anyways.
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Why?

do you not see what TSN has done?

they are playing hard trying to ge the most they can out of Rogers, fuck them both.
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you know what...? i'm so sick of this shit now, and i really dont give a crap anymore. I actually dont mind if this lasts forever, because TSN is losing money BIG time and the longer it goes on; they suffer.
i've blamed it on TSN from the beginning and will continue to blame them. TSN2 can rot for all i care. fuck em. i just watch the raps games online or game in an hour, and they are usually loses anyway so whatever.
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I place the majority of the blame for Rogers. Rogers is taking the safe road with the "we don't want to add additional cost" game. Well, it seems that they don't have a problem to hike fees annually for an administrative fee anyways. And now, this is holding it up? Because we want it to be part of a speciality package where you, the consumer, would pay us approximately $4.99 for a package of channels you'd likely never order anyways?

TSN2 has been picked up by the majority of cable providers. The fact that Rogers throws this ridiculous thing out there is laughable.

Screw em both.
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Why?

do you not see what TSN has done?

they are playing hard trying to ge the most they can out of Rogers, fuck them both.
i see it.

but from a slefish standpoint, i hope they win out. TSN on regular cable means i will watch it. On digital cable means i give up.

why should we have to pay more for something that is already too expensive?

and why does every fucking channel now have to be some digital specialty channel.... ESPECIALLY when it would be carrying shit that should be available on regular cable. They won't be showing niche sports like camel racing or that south american thing where they hit a ball with their elbows.

fuck em both, but fuck rogers more.
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Old 02-10-2009, 09:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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TSN added the new channel for thier own gain.
Roges ok'ed in in 05 but didn't picjk it up, they are competitors.

4 years later, TSN has the channels up and going and take 27 of thier NBA game sand toss them on the TSN2 package purposely to fuck Rogers into having to add the channel, AT TSN'S terms. You know what, thats BS, and I think TSN is fucking ridiculous. Rogers is as well. Both are. However, OHL Hockey is one while the Raptors are playing, which is done on purose and is more of a direct disreguard for the fans, AND a direct fucking over of the MLSE which trust me, will come back to bite them down the road, the MLSE has a good memory.

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Old 02-10-2009, 10:03 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Listen for all you saying this is all rogers fault, Rogers sucks bla bla bla, ITS NOT ROGERS FAULT, ITS TSN'S FAULT 100%. I was listening to the same thing on the raido. TSN is playing hard ball and expects rogers to add it to their regualr programing so they get the mass audience to view the comercials. Thats what this is all about, viewer numbers and selling comercials. Rogers said that they owudl put this as a sepreate pay cannel and tsn said no, they only want it as a channel everyone gets.

The probem is, and i can say i agree that rogers said they cannot just add new channels to the regualr cable pack when ever someone asks. How do you justify charging ever rogers consumer 50c extra on their cable bill everymonth when the large majority of rogers costumers dont want/ care about the new channel. If TSN got its way then every year the bill would get more and mreo ecpensive beucase more channels will want to become part of regualr cable.

THIS IS ALL TSN's FAULT, they are asking for something they simply cannot get. ITs not even suposted to be a prime time sprots channel ( TSN THE SCORE SPROTS NET are) They cannnot give in jsut becase TSN is holding us Raptors fans hostage.

BLAME TSN not ROGERS, this is clear
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Why are people so concerned with the blame game. Bottom line is Rogers, TSN and MLSE have all been part of this and all have had little concern for Raptor fans. That is proven by when have you heard any of these 3 organizations issue any kind of we are sorry Raptor fans? I have not seen it. If you want to get into this whole blame game it would go in this order from what has been seen:

1.TSN
2.MLSE
3.Rogers

But does that get any games on the air any faster? no. It is an insult to basketball fans from all 3 companies. It may be business for them but for fans it is about wanting to watch games and basketball as simple as that. I could care less about bottom line of Rogers or TSN and I only care about MLSE in the sense of how it impacts on the basketball team.

Bottom line Basketball fans lose and that is all I care about. Who is the most at fault is truly not of concern to me in the slightest.
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you know what...? i'm so sick of this shit now, and i really dont give a crap anymore. I actually dont mind if this lasts forever, because TSN is losing money BIG time and the longer it goes on; they suffer.
i've blamed it on TSN from the beginning and will continue to blame them. TSN2 can rot for all i care. fuck em. i just watch the raps games online or game in an hour, and they are usually loses anyway so whatever.

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Yup. Honestly who cares.

being glued to the television is fucking lame anyways.

Instead of watching sports, people would be better doing something with their siginificant others. (and i'm not suggesting anything dirty here..hehe). go for a walk, go for a coffee, play a board game. anything.
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in the last year I 've had Bell and Cogeco and TSN2 was included with existing packages with both providers.
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Yup. Honestly who cares.

being glued to the television is fucking lame anyways.

Instead of watching sports, people would be better doing something with their siginificant others. (and i'm not suggesting anything dirty here..hehe). go for a walk, go for a coffee, play a board game. anything.
Wow so you are a real hardcore fan based on that.
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Wow so you are a real hardcore fan based on that.
shut it.

who even cares.

I'm as much of a fan as the team as i want to be.
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in the last year I 've had Bell and Cogeco and TSN2 was included with existing packages with both providers.
Yup. I don't even think I noticed a big change in the bill. On Starchoice it just appeared.

Why this has become a big deal b/w these two companies, well it's just funny.
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Yup. Honestly who cares.

being glued to the television is fucking lame anyways.

Instead of watching sports, people would be better doing something with their siginificant others. (and i'm not suggesting anything dirty here..hehe). go for a walk, go for a coffee, play a board game. anything.
How about his, instead of watching it, playing the game is even better. Pick up alot of nuances instead of simply watching the game.

That's what I've loved about this season. I don't care if I miss a game, because I'd rather go down to the school and play a couple of games.

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Wow so you are a real hardcore fan based on that.
And what per se creates a "hardcore fan"?
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honestly i switched from rogers to bell, idc who's fault it is. Im actually saving a bit of $ for the same chan's on bell anyways.
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Yup. Honestly who cares.

being glued to the television is fucking lame anyways.

Instead of watching sports, people would be better doing something with their siginificant others. (and i'm not suggesting anything dirty here..hehe). go for a walk, go for a coffee, play a board game. anything.
i end up playing video games and getting yelled at by the GF for not cleaning the house.
good times.
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How about his, instead of watching it, playing the game is even better. Pick up alot of nuances instead of simply watching the game.

That's what I've loved about this season. I don't care if I miss a game, because I'd rather go down to the school and play a couple of games.

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Playing teaches you so much more, and lets you appreciate what the big boys can do.
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it's still rogers fault.
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