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Old 02-17-2012, 11:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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At the end of the season I can personally see ourselves being from anywhere between 4-7 in the lottery
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:38 PM   #22 (permalink)
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what about Derozan? All this talk about logging up the sg spot, id say itd be better to grab a pg, i mean, dont most sg have a slump their third year?
I have serious concerns about whether DeRozan is ever going to develop into a consistently high performing wing. I wouldn't write off his potential, but his inconsistency, lack of elite ability to create his own offence, and spotty defence are red flags for me.
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Old 02-17-2012, 11:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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There is no way Q.Miller drops to the second round. I trust nbadraftexpress more so than nbadraft.net, and even though it doesn't update as often as nbadraft.net, it currently has Q.Miller @ 13 (Feb.12 8 pm).

@ Dark Knight, I am also on board with absorbing contracts in order to get picks. Remember what happened when cleveland absorbed baron davis
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:52 AM   #24 (permalink)
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From previous history, yup. The 2-4 range has definitely had the better odds over the years.

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I meant you are very odd to think that!!
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:13 AM   #25 (permalink)
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even though i love the draft, and always watch especially when the raps have a high pick this i'm more interested in free agency
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:23 AM   #26 (permalink)
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by the way, if it's the same jeremy lamb that was in the U-19 world championship this summer, i was impressed by his game. Long arms, large hands, good shooting, just a solid player. He will be a huge star.
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Old 02-18-2012, 11:46 AM   #27 (permalink)
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by the way, if it's the same jeremy lamb that was in the U-19 world championship this summer, i was impressed by his game. Long arms, large hands, good shooting, just a solid player. He will be a huge star.
Yea that's is him, and i agree that guy is cold blooded killer. JV and Lamb were among the top 3 players in the competition IMO. It would be awesome to see them on the same team
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:34 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I meant you are very odd to think that!!
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:56 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bayless+Barbosa for Harris + utah's first rounder.I'd consider adding our 2nd rounder too. With Harris on this team you don't need to worry about keeping bayless or barbosa.considering utah's play this season we could be getting a 12-14th pick which could equate to q.miller,a.rivers or k.marshall. Utah has been disgusted by harris' play this year.
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:18 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Seems like Nets will have 9 as well
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:22 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Bayless+Barbosa for Harris + utah's first rounder.I'd consider adding our 2nd rounder too. With Harris on this team you don't need to worry about keeping bayless or barbosa.considering utah's play this season we could be getting a 12-14th pick which could equate to q.miller,a.rivers or k.marshall. Utah has been disgusted by harris' play this year.
they want Jose, nothing else.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Jose for Harris and their first rounder isn't too bad, only problem is raps lose a distributor. BUT I think they wouldn't mind that deal I proposed as Harris has had a poor season.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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From previous history, yup. The 2-4 range has definitely had the better odds over the years.

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-History is irrelevant in this case. The odds of winning the lottery are greatest (25%) if you hold the worst record in the league.
-Also, the worst team in the league winning the lottery only 4 times in the past 25 years does make some sense. Since 4/25 is just shy of 20%.
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4 of 25 is 16 percent. A little more than just shy of where it should be. But history does have zilch to do with probability. 25 percent is the best odds you can get. The thing is that the odds down the line aren't that much worse.
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If Nets beat Bucks tomorrow Raps will become a team with a fourth worst record in the league
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:03 AM   #36 (permalink)
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I say the best spot we'd be in is 25th in the league at the end of the season. highest 20th
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:53 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Lamb had a good year last year but if you watch him this year he takes bad shots, not very explosive and his 3 ball isn't as good as everyone thinks it is

his draft stock is falling
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4 of 25 is 16 percent. A little more than just shy of where it should be. But history does have zilch to do with probability. 25 percent is the best odds you can get. The thing is that the odds down the line aren't that much worse.
-Your right 16 percent does not seem very close to 25 percent...
But lets put this in perspective:
4/25 = 16% while 6/25= 24%
So the difference here is only 2 draft lotteries out of 25, which is quite insignificant.
-If we were to look at the draft outcomes of 500 drafts then you would see results that are closer to 25%.
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4 of 25 is 16 percent. A little more than just shy of where it should be. But history does have zilch to do with probability. 25 percent is the best odds you can get. The thing is that the odds down the line aren't that much worse.
The odds down the line stay level for a couple picks, then drop off considerably. 25%, 19.9%, 15.6%, 11.9%, 8.8% - so at 1st pick you are 3 times as likely to win as the 5th pick, and it really drops off from there.

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-Your right 16 percent does not seem very close to 25 percent...
But lets put this in perspective:
4/25 = 16% while 6/25= 24%
So the difference here is only 2 draft lotteries out of 25, which is quite insignificant.
-If we were to look at the draft outcomes of 500 drafts then you would see results that are closer to 25%.
This actually results in a regression to the mean - which could be seen as suggesting that the top pick is more likely than 25% to win until its all-time percentage reaches 25%. Of course, this is a fallacy, but fun to think about!
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:41 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Lamb had a good year last year but if you watch him this year he takes bad shots, not very explosive and his 3 ball isn't as good as everyone thinks it is

his draft stock is falling
agree ... I've noticed the samething ... the few UCONN games I watched were boring ... Drummond and Lamb haven't impressed. Could be the system they are playing.
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