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Old 04-19-2011, 12:37 AM   #21 (permalink)
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He's probably gone in a few years anyway. Nice to have him for 1-2 years but I would prefer someone right now for the long term. I would take him over Triano though.
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Old 04-19-2011, 02:02 AM   #22 (permalink)
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For gods sakes, no! He's left every situation he's ever been in as a loser, failure, underachiever. His teams always combust in the playoffs, and often in the worst way. And he is not a defensive guru!

"He's accomplished more than Triano ever has [and possibly ever will] many will contend." More than Triano ever has, that's true, but he's had some pretty awesome teams, too. He was at the helm of Portland (who had Scottie Pippen, Rasheed Wallace, Mighty Mouse, and a very stacked team) when they imploded vs. the Lakers; ditto the Kings when they also got beaten in most humiliating fasion by the Lakers.
Nope. Mike Dunleavy was the coach of that Portland team which blew a 17 point lead in the fourth quarter of game 7 against the Lake Show. Adelman led the Blazers to the finals in '90 and '92.

And humiliating fashion? Do you mean humiliating for the league? Because the Kings were completely screwed.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:21 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I don't think Triano is the prob. Replacing him isn't going to do anything but delay the rebuild as the players would have to learn a new system.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:58 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't think Triano is the prob. Replacing him isn't going to do anything but delay the rebuild as the players would have to learn a new system.
I agree.. we have been through to many coaching changes..
we are the second youngest team in the league..

and it seems as tho the young guys like to play for Jay, so why get rid of him
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:08 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I don't think Triano is the prob. Replacing him isn't going to do anything but delay the rebuild as the players would have to learn a new system.
If it's a better system, it would be better then them continuing to learn an inferior system and continue with bad habits and then eventually have to learn a new system anyway once Triano is finally canned.
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Old 04-19-2011, 09:26 AM   #26 (permalink)
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I don't think Triano is the prob. Replacing him isn't going to do anything but delay the rebuild as the players would have to learn a new system.
Is not that this systen gave us that brilliant a result.
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Old 04-19-2011, 01:44 PM   #27 (permalink)
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no way adleman comes to a rebuilding situation, that's the main reason he left houston. He'll pick up a team like Boston or maybe Orlando (if they fire SVG).

let's face it, Toronto at this stage is as unattractive to players as it is to big-name coaches. I suspect even if you overpay a lot, you're still not getting an older guy like adleman.
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Old 04-19-2011, 07:11 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Is not that this systen gave us that brilliant a result.
We were 5th seen before Bosh-gate last year and we were beating all expectations this season before half the team got injured. This team right now is lacking vet leadership and talent, changing coaches isn't going to do anything.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:57 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Jeff Van Gundy is what this team needs tbh imo.. chances of that happening are extremely slim but still
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Nope. Mike Dunleavy was the coach of that Portland team which blew a 17 point lead in the fourth quarter of game 7 against the Lake Show. Adelman led the Blazers to the finals in '90 and '92.

And humiliating fashion? Do you mean humiliating for the league? Because the Kings were completely screwed.
You're right, that was Dunleavy who was at the helm of the Blazers during that colossal failure.

I agree that that Kings failure was partly the league's fault. Still, Adleman basically just sat and watched as his team choked and the refs gave call after call to the lakers in that horrible game 6.
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Old 04-20-2011, 07:31 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I would take JVG in a heartbeat....we could use his hardass discipline and defensive schemes.

I would also take Adelman. Different style of coach. Great at offense and I think his defensive schemes are underrated.
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Old 04-21-2011, 06:03 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Adelman showed that he can work with what he's got. Make scrub players play greaat basketball
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Old 04-21-2011, 12:38 PM   #33 (permalink)
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You're right, that was Dunleavy who was at the helm of the Blazers during that colossal failure.

I agree that that Kings failure was partly the league's fault. Still, Adleman basically just sat and watched as his team choked and the refs gave call after call to the lakers in that horrible game 6.
so what's a coach to do when the refs were clearly rigged?

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Old 04-21-2011, 12:39 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Nope. Mike Dunleavy was the coach of that Portland team which blew a 17 point lead in the fourth quarter of game 7 against the Lake Show. Adelman led the Blazers to the finals in '90 and '92.

And humiliating fashion? Do you mean humiliating for the league? Because the Kings were completely screwed.
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Old 04-22-2011, 11:31 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Rick Adelman: Is This the Man with the Plan Who Could Help the Toronto Raptors? | Bleacher Report

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Most recently, Rick Adelman, former head coach of the Houston Rockets, was told that he would not be given another contract and his run with the team is over.

This is probably because of the fact that the Rockets have not made the playoffs for the past two seasons.

There are many reasons for the downfall of the Rockets from their reign in the playoffs. It could be the fact that their GM did not make some smart decisions in some aspects of the game.

Obviously, adding players like Luis Scola and Kevin Martin were some very big acquisitions. Or it could also be the fact that Yao Ming has not been 100 percent and their frontcourt has not been very strong.

Whatever the reason be, Rick Adelman had nothing to do with it. He is a great coach, and bringing him to Toronto would be a huge plus for the team and would shorten the rebuilding process by a lot.

This is not suggesting that we get rid of Jay Triano, because Triano is in a very tough situation right now and he is trying his best. If the team does have to get rid of Triano, then let them, but I would personally put him into the assistant coach position, which is where he belongs.

Adelman is a defensive-minded coach, and the Toronto Raptors are one of the worst defensive teams in the league. The team does have some potential All-NBA defensive team members in Ed Davis and James Johnson.

On the other hand, you have players like Andrea Bargnani and Jose Calderon who don't play a lot of defense. Bargnani, specifically, has been quoted as saying he focuses mainly on offense and not too much on rebounding and defense. That is not entirely horrible per se, since he is actually capable of doing some amazing things offensively, but defense is something should every player should work on.

Adelman is someone who can make the Raptors' main focus on DEFENSE. As of right now, the team plays offense only, and they don't do a very good job at it.

On defense, the team lets in too many easy shots and doesn't contest the shooter or the player with the ball. Their off the ball defense is also not very effective as they don't get past screens and the players they defend get the ball too easily.

Let us hope that Bryan Colangelo can bring in Adelman and fix the situation we have in Toronto
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:12 PM   #36 (permalink)
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its not up to BC. his price tag would be large, thus MLSE would probably say no
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Old 04-22-2011, 01:41 PM   #37 (permalink)
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i want lawrence frank here next season....
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Old 04-23-2011, 07:45 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Rick's a winner.
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:46 AM   #40 (permalink)
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it would be optimal if rick came and jay shifted back to an assistant role, rick is a winner and jay seems to be able to teach his players to improve their individual skills
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