Ric Bucher: What the Raps need, they won't find in the draft
Old 01-20-2011, 09:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ric Bucher was on the Fan590 today and said some decent things about the Raptors. He states the Raptors are gonna have to improve through trades and or signings because fom all accounts there are no game changers in the draft next summer. BTW, Gregg Brady is an idiot.

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Old 01-20-2011, 10:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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BTW, Gregg Brady is an idiot.
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Old 01-20-2011, 11:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Ric Who? We don't have espn in Canada so this clowns opinion doesn't matter. I'd understand if it were coming out of chad fords mouth but who the f is Bucher?
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I'm sure the thunder, clippers, and warriors would disagree. Raptors never make any good signings in the FA, nobody wants to play here. We always end up overpaying for below average players. Arguably 3 of the top 5 players on the team are our draft picks.

What this teams needs is a Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, or a Derrick Rose. Where are they all from? The draft.

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I'm sure the thunder, clippers, and warriors would disagree. Raptors never make any good signings in the FA, nobody wants to play here. We always end up overpaying for below average players. Arguably 3 of the top 5 players on the team are our draft picks.

What this teams needs is a Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, or a Derrick Rose. Where are they all from? The draft.
What he is saying is there is no Griffin, Durant, or Rose in this year draft which many people agree with. A lot of people believe this draft lacks elite talent.
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Ric Who? We don't have espn in Canada so this clowns opinion doesn't matter. I'd understand if it were coming out of chad fords mouth but who the f is Bucher?
An ESPN analyst. Also does stuff for ESPN magazine. He is the guy who is there at the NBA draft and is reporting all the trades that are happening and who gets who.

He knows a lot of people in the league.

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Old 01-20-2011, 11:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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What he is saying is there is no Griffin, Durant, or Rose in this year draft which many people agree with. A lot of people believe this draft lacks elite talent.
Even if it's like the 2006 draft it wouldn't be bad for the raps. We already have a few solid players that are going to be with the team in the future (hopefully). All we need this draft is a SF that can create, and a C or PG. Maybe BC will use some of that cash to buy draft picks.
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What he is saying is there is no Griffin, Durant, or Rose in this year draft which many people agree with. A lot of people believe this draft lacks elite talent.
Theres always good players in every draft class. You just need to do your scouting. And it doesn't have to be an elite player all the time. I just hope our scouting department doesn't screw up with a high lottery pick.
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Theres always good players in every draft class. You just need to do your scouting. And it doesn't have to be an elite player all the time. I just hope our scouting department doesn't screw up with a high lottery pick.
True. But that is easier said then done.
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And Stern and his dumb 1 year from high school rule is a bunch of bullshit. That snake robbed us of Durant.
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And Stern and his dumb 1 year from high school rule is a bunch of bullshit. That snake robbed us of Durant.
Maybe. Greg Oden still would of been in that draft also so Raptors could of went that way and probably would have
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Even if it's like the 2006 draft it wouldn't be bad for the raps. We already have a few solid players that are going to be with the team in the future (hopefully). All we need this draft is a SF that can create, and a C or PG. Maybe BC will use some of that cash to buy draft picks.
There is no top Centers in this year draft.

PG if Irving declares and Raptors keep losing he would be great to have.

SF Perry Jones and Harrison Barnes are the top 2 that I've seen on most people board. Jones is a project trying to become a SF. Barnes has struggle at UNC.

I'm hoping for PG Kyrie Irving from Duke.

Seems like this draft is top heavy by PF.
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Maybe. Greg Oden still would of been in that draft also so Raptors could of went that way and probably would have
It's not only that though. The talent pool of the draft is getting weaker and weaker with his stupid rules in place. Whats the point of one year after high school. It's almost like many of the talented prospects are being forced into something that they don't want to do. Lebron James didn't go to college, Dwight Howard didn't go to college, Amare didn't go and so on and so forth. It's like he's almost trying to screw up the fortunes for certain teams. Soon he's gonna implement his stupid 2 year rule.
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Ric Bucher was on the Fan590 today and said some decent things about the Raptors. He states the Raptors are gonna have to improve through trades and or signings because fom all accounts there are no game changers in the draft next summer. BTW, Gregg Brady is an idiot.

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Someone call in and ask him if he can predict who the Jays should draft with his crystal ball.
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It's not only that though. The talent pool of the draft is getting weaker and weaker with his stupid rules in place. Whats the point of one year after high school. It's almost like many of the talented prospects are being forced into something that they don't want to do. Lebron James didn't go to college, Dwight Howard didn't go to college, Amare didn't go and so on and so forth. It's like he's almost trying to screw up the fortunes for certain teams. Soon he's gonna implement his stupid 2 year rule.
There's a higher percentage of high school players who have either declared for the draft or entered the draft and have either become undrafted or just a 'bust'.

Plus, the overall skill level of the game since more and more high school kids got drafted has become weaker and weaker. How many players are really ready out of high school?

Having them go to school for even 1 year allows for 1 more year of maturity, 1 more year of fundamentals, 1 more year of high level coaching and from an NBA team's perspective, 1 more year of playing on an even larger stage potentially (March Madness, Final 4). If I'm running a team, I'd take a guy who is a top 5 prospect and has even 1 year of experience.

Also, it gives a lot of these guys to get an education and protect themselves in the future. Too many players, well aren't too bright, and while they may coast in their courses, it allows them still the opportunity to get a free education. Give them a leg up.

Really, the NCAA or the schools, should give players a small fee for playing considering the millions schools make off of the NCAA.
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when a team like the Raptors is short on talent like they are specifically on the wings, any first round draft pick will help. Sure maybe there will not be a real slam dunk superstar for the picking, but any good young player will be an improvement. I highly doubt that most people had Ed Davis pencilled in as a 'top player', but who can tell me that he isn't one of the better pieces on this team?
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I highly doubt that most people had Ed Davis pencilled in as a 'top player', but who can tell me that he isn't one of the better pieces on this team?
IIRC most teams did have him penciled in around the 4-7 pick area, the reason he didn't go till 13 was because he refused all testing from teams (he was injured) which hurt his draft position heavily.
We got one hell of a steal at the 13th pick last year!
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It's not only that though. The talent pool of the draft is getting weaker and weaker with his stupid rules in place. Whats the point of one year after high school. It's almost like many of the talented prospects are being forced into something that they don't want to do. Lebron James didn't go to college, Dwight Howard didn't go to college, Amare didn't go and so on and so forth. It's like he's almost trying to screw up the fortunes for certain teams. Soon he's gonna implement his stupid 2 year rule.
I agree. As I said before, Restrictions are a bad thing. It just stupid and useless. If guy wants to enter the draft, whats the problem? Team is afraid to draft a high schooler? So don't draft him...
What if guy doesn't want go to college? Jennings did a good job, he became a PRO in Italy. But it's not so easy to be a PRO on the other side of the world when you are 18-19 years old.
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imo, the restriction is ridiculous and borderline illegal. In fact it's probably illegal - it basically discriminates against a group of people based on their age. It's advantageous to both the players and the owners, which is why nobody complains much, the only ones who lose are the players.
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it's also very advantageous to the ncaa. the college ranks have been decimated over the years by early exits or players tha just skip college altogether. this is very much about trying to help the main feeder route to the nba.
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