Dr. J. Naismith

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Dark Knight

I don't see how its Chris's fault we sucked this year. He still put up all star numbers. We just got off to a rocky strat and couldn't recover is all. That isn't the reason why hes not a franchise player.

I still have a hard time picturing BC trading boch because Colangelo is so high about CB

HassamZafar9

He'll have no choice though.. If Bosh doesnt accept the offer. Its either: Loose Bosh for nothing, or get atleast something in return.

Superjudge

i like that theydont think he's a franchise guy and are saying it publicly.

TORaptor4Ever

Was this written by Stephen A. Smith?? Lol....

Ridiculous.

And I suppose that those GMs have already forgetten how many games the Heat lost 2 years ago when Wade wasn't healthy?

UpStrong

CB isn't going anywhere this summer. That's a lock. BC will offer him a contract extension but doesn't expect him to take it for a number of good reasons (read length of contract and dollars). Why am I so sure... lol let's just say a very important little birdie told me.

Apollo

Yeah, he still padded his stats but when the going go tough he shriveled up like a Johnson hitting the cold lake water. If stats were the be all, end all then Zach Randolph and Tracy McGrady would be two of the most successful and sought after players in the league. And no, I'm not comparing Bosh to these two but I am using them to prove a point.

Ugo Ferst

ummm, in his prime and not hurt, mcgrady was one of the most sought after players in the league....

Apollo

In his prime and not hurt Tracy Mcgrady never made it out of the first round. For that matter he's never made it out of the first round, period. The fact that teams valued him is irrelevant. Team used to value Steve Francis and Stephon Marbury as well, both considered top tier point guards at one point in time.

This is off-topic, I am showing that stats don't make you a winner and it definately has no correlation with leadership.

LX

Bosh padded his stats in the last game. Outside of that, I don't see where the idea comes into play at all. He sacrificed his stats on many nights to support JO and AB.

Ugo Ferst

Agree. A real unsung part of ABs success is the fact Chris does not let his ego get in the way of letting another player shine, they work well together and i believe Chris fully supports him and has no problem sharing the ball. Padded stats.... if you mean by, we went to him alot because he is the only thing working on our team consistently offensively, then yes, very padded. But if you mean it's by him chucking or running outside the offense designed for the team, i would think with the expection of a couple 3s he has taken, he almost never does anything like that. Jumpers are his game, so dont point to that, thats how he sets up his drives. I dont think Chris' numbers are padded at all, he shoots enough that you can be sure you have a good idea of his efficiency, and it is HIGH, very high.

LX

The comparisons to McGrady, and especially Marbury and Francis, honestly made me through up in my mouth a little. I gotta get a tic tac.

jeffb

So Bosh won't sign an extension, therefore he's staying? OK??

LX

He doesn't need an extension to stay.

jeffb

True. But if he doesn't and doesn't seem open to it, BC will trade him.

Apollo

I already said it wasn't a comparison. I wanted to show why stats aren't the be all, end all. Chris has talent...A lot of it, he's a nice guy, he helps out in the community, I like him, I just don't want him to be "the guy" for the Raptors because its a gig he can't handle. Also, based on the rumors he doesn't want to handle it anymore either. So the feeling is mutual.

The CBA runs out before he hits the market. The cap and MLE are expected to go down this summer. When the CBA is negotiated all contracts signed thereafter are going to be smaller. Basically, if Bosh doesn't sign an extension this summer he is taking a gigantic chance at losing major coin. This is for real, its going to happen. The league had to take out a loan and distribute the money to 15 teams just so the teams could pay their operation costs this year. Its been reported that owners will lock the players out until they agree to their terms because right now its less expensive just to just close the doors than to pay the players on top of all the other costs of running a team. The NBA players have less footing than the NHL players had during their last lockout.

Basically, if Bosh rejects the extension he is saying he wants out. There is no chance in hell, in my opinion, that he wants to enter 2010 free agency, there is so much to lose by doing so. He wants the extension and the trade to a preferred team. That's my theory based on everything I've read. Also, whoever does lock him up to a big extension is going to have a contract that hits the cap far more severely after the new CBA negotiations because the cap is going to shrink so much.

bjjs

Chris Bosh,
is the new Sam Mitchell.

LX

Yep - that crossed my mind yesterday.

UpStrong

It goes something like this. Bosh can only signs an extention this summer for an additional 3 years (next season which he is still under contract for and 3 more). If he waits until 2010 he can get a 6 year extension.

The question most would ask is what if he walks for nothing in 2010. The answer is that he doesn't get the same money and can only sign for 5 years instead of 6 if he doesn't let the Raps sign and trade him. Bosh isn't stupid he either stays with Toronto or uses them for the sign and trade.

Second question is can't the Raps get more for him this summer. Answer, BC is going to take his chances with being able to convince Bosh this is the best situation for him over the following season. If Bosh still decides he want to go then BC will get what he can with a sign and trade.

Third question. How do I know.... Like I said a Birdie told me & this Birdie ain't no ordinary Birdie.

Here is something else the Birde said:
BC really likes Marion. In fact in the Birdie's words BC things Marion is a "perfect fit". There are only 5 teams with cap space to sign Marion and of the 5 the Pistons are the only team that may be interested. Everybody else is going to have to workout a sign and trade. The Raptors will make Marion an offer. He will shop the offer. If he can do better he'll do the sign an trade. If not he'll be back rebounding and scoring 12-15 ppg without having a play run for him.

On the draft. BC has a blended philosophy somewhere between drafting the best available talent and drafting for need. He likes big guards and wants someone who can help sooner rather than later. He is also thinking about aquiring a second first round pick if a few of the players he is looking at fall in the draft. Of course if the Raps get luck and move up in the lottery then things will change.

On Bargnani. They love him and he loves them. He's not going anywhere.

On Calderon. BC things he is a top 10 point guard when healthy. He thinks he picked up some bad habits under Mitchell but feels confident that those habits can be unlearned.

LX

Welcome Up! Nice post. I didn't have any birdie, but common sense told me about the same thing. I really feel that BC did the JO trade with the intention of landing Marion more than anything else, and that a 3 way trade was what he had originally hoped for, but he got strong-armed by Riley.

I agree that Marion is a perfect fit. I think if things fall through with Marion, then he might have to consider shopping Bosh more. But if he can sign Marion, and add another couple guys that fit pretty well, then he is going to see what Bosh can truly do, and Bosh is going to see the same.