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Old 12-07-2008, 03:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Being too comfortable also plays a factor. Given the starting position in the start of the year when he came in to camp with nothing. If he had some fire under his ass he would be doing what he did last year with more intensity.
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Old 12-07-2008, 03:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Being too comfortable also plays a factor. Given the starting position in the start of the year when he came in to camp with nothing. If he had some fire under his ass he would be doing what he did last year with more intensity.
Except that he stopped playing aggressively long before the start of this season. Teams just simply figured him out and he never managed to react properly.
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:28 PM   #23 (permalink)
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HAHAHAHA

I wasen't a member back then... this thread just made me laugh out loud.

But hey... I thought the same way you guys did 12 months ago
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Old 12-07-2008, 04:56 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Except that he stopped playing aggressively long before the start of this season. Teams just simply figured him out and he never managed to react properly.
That is true in regards to the aggressiveness. But really we are in a time where NBA players for the most part are stupid. Meaning a guy like Moon is not a focal point in meeting with the scouts (And if most players are like ours they don't read scouting reports which is obvious becasue they don't know who is who on the court).

He was and is not effective enough to pay attention to. Guys like Bosh, Bargs, Jose, JO, Kap, and maybe AP need to be paid attention too. If Moon was smarter he would use a jump shot as a weapon not as his only offence.

You can see I am not feeling Moon these days.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:42 PM   #25 (permalink)
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the problem here is that everyone is expecting too much from him, he is basically an energy guy
skillwise this guy basically has none, he has a very average jumper, without the jumper how can he bait the defense to allow him the drive which everyone keeps telling him to do, now this already makes his driving to the basket difficult, now add in the fact that his ball handling is not good either, so how is he supposed to drive when he can't dribble properly
basically everyone is telling him to do stuff that his skills don't have
add in the fact that he's in his 2nd year so now all the teams know who he is and how to defend him, because if i was just able to list off his limitations i'm pretty sure the other teams can too
people are going to say that he was able to get to the basket and dunk last year more so than this, this is also because a lot of that was off broken plays, free flowing offense and alleys, well now we have jose as the only PG, jose basically runs the 2 plays, pick and roll/pop or the dump in to cb4, in those 2 plays it is pretty hard for there to be a moon to the basket, and jose doesn't know how to push the ball for some free flowing layup/dunk shots, and he is basically obviously to the back door alley
i have counted at least 5 times this year where moon was wide open for the alley and kept faking the jump because jose wouldn't even be looking for that and only for CB4
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the problem here is that everyone is expecting too much from him, he is basically an energy guy
skillwise this guy basically has none, he has a very average jumper, without the jumper how can he bait the defense to allow him the drive which everyone keeps telling him to do, now this already makes his driving to the basket difficult, now add in the fact that his ball handling is not good either, so how is he supposed to drive when he can't dribble properly
basically everyone is telling him to do stuff that his skills don't have
add in the fact that he's in his 2nd year so now all the teams know who he is and how to defend him, because if i was just able to list off his limitations i'm pretty sure the other teams can too
people are going to say that he was able to get to the basket and dunk last year more so than this, this is also because a lot of that was off broken plays, free flowing offense and alleys, well now we have jose as the only PG, jose basically runs the 2 plays, pick and roll/pop or the dump in to cb4, in those 2 plays it is pretty hard for there to be a moon to the basket, and jose doesn't know how to push the ball for some free flowing layup/dunk shots, and he is basically obviously to the back door alley
i have counted at least 5 times this year where moon was wide open for the alley and kept faking the jump because jose wouldn't even be looking for that and only for CB4
Good points, but this isn't on Jose. Saying he missed Jamario on alley oops is nice but what of all the other moments. The thing about Jamario is that he does have some skill and he's only really in love with shot right now. Defensively, I think he has played worst.

Then again, I said about a year ago, that once teams key on what he does, he'll become ineffective unless he develops a bigger repetoire. Sadly, I was right.
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:20 PM   #27 (permalink)
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i agree, i'm not saying its jose
it is jamario's fault that he didn't develop a bigger repetoire over the summer, but at the same time we can't really expect him to develop much as throughout his career in bball he has never shown the ability to develop much, and non-development isn't really a new thing in bball, tons of players stay stagnant in their abilities, moon may just be 1 of those players
again how can you drive when you don't have a jump shot to open up the lane, how can you drive when you don't have ball handling skills, if you can't get to the basket what else can you do to get points but shoot, its basically a circle over and over
actually if you look at his FG% this season you'll notice that its at 46%, i believe that is very respectable, and considering everyone keeps saying he's talking just jump shots, then you're saying here that his jump shooting is 46%, i'm pretty sure that's fairly good
and everyone said 2 things about him to improve over the summer, get to the basket and improve his shot, well now he's shooting a lot more, maybe he believes he has improved his shot and is trying to show everyone he has worked on his shot
its almost another circle here, people want him to improve his shot and they also want him to drive the ball, thats pretty much 2 completely opposite things, what is he supposed to show you, he can't do both
and at the end of the day you have to remember that this guy is an 800K man, not a $3million man, the expectations should be lower whether or not this is right or wrong
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:37 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Can't believe Jamario Moon and Kevin Durant were in the same sentence.
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JV looks aggressive on the boards tonight
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:46 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I don't know. RD have to be the only boards where we get transported back in time 7 years to random archived threads
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Old 12-09-2014, 08:47 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 12-09-2014, 09:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Could've used him tonight. :leo:











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