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jeffb 04-02-2011 04:51 PM

Reggie: Bargnani is our franchise player
 
:tank:


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When the Toronto Raptor's All-Star power forward Chris Bosh signed with the Miami Heat, Andrea Bargnani became the team's go-to-guy, whether he was ready for it or not. The Raptors first overall pick from 2006 was suddenly thrust into the spotlight.

"He is the franchise guy now," concluded Raptors veteran Reggie Evans.

Bargnani has taken on the role as leading scorer for the Raptors, averaging over 20 points per game in every month this season.

But as a seven-footer, Bargnani has to be reminded that a five rebound average isn't normally acceptable for a starting big man in the NBA.

"I have to keep getting better at other aspects starting from the three-point line, defense, and rebounding," said Bargnani. "Everybody can see the numbers. Offensively the numbers are there, I have to get better at rebounding."

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19313

pzabby 04-02-2011 04:57 PM

i love how he puts rebounding as a last priority and three point shooting as a first :dead:

Ligeia 04-02-2011 05:02 PM

Here is the actual article (why not link to that?):

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=19313


The rebounding numbers are frustrating but not a huge deal to me. What does drive me crazy is how awful he is on defense, and I haven't seen much progress in that respect.

I also find it interesting that they suggest Bargnani is being a quiet leader who leads through his play. Maybe it's just me, but I would like to see some players on this team who do actually lead through their play and seem like they give a shit about the team's success. I don't mean to imply that Bargnani doesn't care, but I would like to see a leader who wants to drive the team to success and helps make the team better. A captain in the truest sense of the word. I'm not sure that this team has had that for a while.

Ball Don't Lie 04-02-2011 05:17 PM

Most depressing thread of the season. By far.

If hes still here next year I will not go to any games.

Chiggmo 04-02-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92 (Post 525936)
Most depressing thread of the season. By far.

If hes still here next year I will not go to any games.

Agreed.

x_kaptain_x 04-02-2011 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92 (Post 525936)
Most depressing thread of the season. By far.

If hes still here next year I will not go to any games.

That's idiotic, you won't go to the game BECAUSE of Bargnani? MAYBE if it's the same team next year you shouldn't go, the losing isn't squarely Bargnani's fault, he just doesn't help..

Ball Don't Lie 04-02-2011 06:47 PM

The point of my post being we cant be any good or even average if Bargs is our best player. I'm not paying my hard earned dollar to watch a team play with no effort and conviction. Teams take on the personality of their best player(s) and coach. And we are the worst in the NBA if you combine the two.

carp 04-02-2011 06:55 PM

hate has such an irrational snowball effect.

I like how teammates value AB.... nice to see team unity. On bad teams, things are never what they seem.

jj33 04-02-2011 08:09 PM

My problem with these articles is how they put emphasis on his scoring!

An average fan would only look at points and say: "yeah, he is our best player!!" I don't give a fuck about you scoring 20 points on 18 shots!! Calderon could do that as well! Hell Weems would score 20 on 18 shots!

carp 04-02-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jj33 (Post 525971)
My problem with these articles is how they put emphasis on his scoring!

An average fan would only look at points and say: "yeah, he is our best player!!" I don't give a fuck about you scoring 20 points on 18 shots!! Calderon could do that as well! Hell Weems would score 20 on 18 shots!

sure Weems could.... sure. It's the NBA... and you think just anybody can score.... lol

Aamir 04-02-2011 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 525984)
sure Weems could.... sure. It's the NBA... and you think just anybody can score.... lol

He has a point. Many MORE players in this league can average 20 points with 20-25 shots. Bargs doesn't do it all the time, but he has been recently over the past month.

gabe91 04-02-2011 09:46 PM

it doesn't matter if you score 5, 10, 15, 20,25 or 30 points. If you can't play defense, especially as the starting C, then GTFO

halphbreedballer 04-02-2011 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gabe91 (Post 525996)
it doesn't matter if you score 5, 10, 15, 20,25 or 30 points. If you can't play defense, especially as the starting C, then GTFO

It's not that he can't play defense, he won't.

hontoni 04-03-2011 03:55 AM

Our franchise player should be Ed Davis next season. Trade Jose and Bargnani for a good defensive center and fire Triano then we can fight for playoffs.

Nites 04-03-2011 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 526031)
It's not that he can't play defense, he won't.

It's not that he won't, he simply is incapable.

prebozzio 04-03-2011 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 525987)
He has a point. Many MORE players in this league can average 20 points with 20-25 shots. Bargs doesn't do it all the time, but he has been recently over the past month.

he has 17.9 field goal attempts per match, not 25.

MrClutch 04-03-2011 09:09 AM

one of the only things i havent liked from reggie. bargnani is not franchise material

carp 04-03-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by prebozzio (Post 526060)
he has 17.9 field goal attempts per match, not 25.

+1

It's really old how fans of this franchise love a good witch hunt. Seems like this 'he must go' philosophy is based more on hate than rational thought. Take AB off this team and we're on a 10 year rebuild, especially if we traded him in a deal resembling Nazr Mohammed for AB, which is exactly what many of you advocate. People complain that no stars want to come here, no players want to stay here.... we have a guy that signs, wants to play here, and all we want to do is trade him. Same with Jose. If it was so easy to build a team, teams like Indiana and Philly wouldn't have been struggling so long just to be relevant.

Bad teams play inconsistently. Inconsistency highlights poor play. Young teams are consistently bad. Trading away AB for bit parts would be the worst thing that could happen at this point. Triano has this team at least playing hard, with great unity and a sense of something to build towards. Why can't anyone enjoy that?

If we get a great offer, fine. AB likely has more value to us at this point then in a trade though. It blows my mind that anyone here thinks Weems could be the number one scoring option on this team.... or even to suggest he could be simply to make a point that we should hate Bargnani. They are pretty much the same age, yet Weems is a young gun and Bargnani can't improve? It's irrational hate... period.

Can you put your lips on it? That's what she said!

jeffb 04-03-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 526068)
It's really old how fans of this franchise love a good witch hunt. Seems like this 'he must go' philosophy is based more on hate than rational thought. Take AB off this team and we're on a 10 year rebuild,

Bullshit! He's an ineficient scorer who costs us points in our own end. Sorry, but If Bargnani left it would speed up the rebuild process.

Deez 04-03-2011 09:16 AM

He should be 6th man, 1st off the bench with good rotation minutes, go out and torch 2nd unit bigs with unrefined offensive games.


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