Reasonable offers for KL, PP and GV
Old 05-04-2014, 09:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Here is what I think is a fare prize for each one of them:

KL $33 mill for 3 years (11 per year)
PP $18 mill for 3 years (6 per year)
GV $18 mill for 3 years (6 per year)
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Less for Vasquez (I think he's worth ~$4) and possibly Patterson (~$5) and I'd give Lowry four years with the fourth being a team option/partially guaranteed. Overall, I wouldn't hate any of these deals.
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Lowry: 4yrs/44-48mil
Patterson: 3yrs/13mil
Vasquez: 3yrs/15mil
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Less for Vasquez (I think he's worth ~$4) and possibly Patterson (~$5) and I'd give Lowry four years with the fourth being a team option/partially guaranteed. Overall, I wouldn't hate any of these deals.
So you recon PP and GV are worth less than what Chuck Hayes is getting this year? ($5.74 mil)?
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So you recon PP and GV are worth less than what Chuck Hayes is getting this year? ($5.74 mil)?
Chuck Hayes is overpayed

Vasquez/PP are worth roughly 4-5mil/yr imo

Hayes is a vet minimum player. His next contract will be just that
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think market demand will ultimately determine Lowry's and Vasquez's payout, not so much with Patterson since there seems to be an influx of 4s in the nba,

If ujiri is smart he shouldn't let them test the market too much IMO, look at DD's and Amir's contracts. While highly criticized when signed, now they seem to be bargains.

My estimate are
Lowry 12
Vasquez 6
Patterson 5
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The Hayes deal was signed after a career year. Just because his contract sucks doesn't mean the other guys are automatically worth more.
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I guess my question is, if PP and GV ask for 3y and 18 mill each, would you let them go then?
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Alternatively, just give both of them the QO and let restricted free agency take its course.
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Old 05-04-2014, 09:21 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Does anyone have an idea of what sum is fiscally viable for the team? Shelling out cap space for three players must be straining
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So many decisions to be made by MU:

Buycks/Stone/Salmons likely gone

Can we somehow move LF/Hayes

Do we keep TH

Head Coach status

Amir Johnson's Team Option

Lowry/GV/PP contract negotiations

FA signings

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do we have a limit in how much we can spend , why can't we have an expensive team like brooklyn , is there a limit and why?

we need a reliable 3 point shooter ,
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At minimum 4 yr 36 mil though I see KL around Lawson's level - 4 yr 48mil. As DanH stated on another thread, with the increase in the coming cap even the higher amount is easier to absorb.

Pay the man - he's turned into a top tier pg and is the heart and soul of the team. Fans wanted toughness and a leader we have it now. Wanna take a major step back - let him go....
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do we have a limit in how much we can spend , why can't we have an expensive team like brooklyn , is there a limit and why?

we need a reliable 3 point shooter ,
We need a wing like Deng
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I would love a player like Wilson Chandler here off the bench. Wonder if Denver would be willing to part with him. His contract is not great (7mil/yr?), but he's the type of player this team would need.


edit: Chandler only has one year guaranteed at 6.7mil remaining plus a team option at 7.1Mil. Pretty good imo.

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So many decisions to be made by MU:

Buycks/Stone/Salmons likely gone

Can we somehow move LF/Hayes

Do we keep TH

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Amir Johnson's Team Option

Lowry/GV/PP contract negotiations

FA signings

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1. Hope so
2. We don't really need to, don't think we are going to need much cap this off season
3.yes
4. See what else could we get first
5. No brained
6. Would love to keep them
7. Back up sf backup c, if we don't draft them
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I would love a player like Wilson Chandler here off the bench. Wonder if Denver would be willing to part with him. His contract is not great (7mil/yr?), but he's the type of player this team would need.


edit: Chandler only has one year guaranteed at 6.7mil remaining plus a team option at 7.1Mil. Pretty good imo.
Salmons for Chandler straight up? Saves them money instantly.
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Salmons for Chandler straight up? Saves them money instantly.
I was thinking that too, I'd even throw in a future 2nd rounder.

A bench of: Vasquez, De Colo, Chandler, Patterson, vet Center? would be pretty good. I would even look at a player like Anthony Morrow who'd be pretty cheap and I think is a FA.
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Salmons for Chandler straight up? Saves them money instantly.
could be a win win, but it would impact our cap space next summer
not sure chandler is worth that
unless he expires, but I think he has one more year after the next, no?
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I'd go as far as 12+ 13+ 14+ 15 for lowry, but obviously only if the market demands it. It will be a bad deal in his last season for sure, but what are you going to do ...

for PP and GV, I'd go as far as 5/yr, again, if the market demands it. Both are solid bench guys and they're worth that kind of money given their age. I'm afraid we will lose at least one of them though, too much money on the market. I really like their versatility - underrated trait for bench guys.
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