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Old 12-10-2012, 01:21 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I remember chandler stunk it up in his first 3 years in the league. I dont think really comparable to Val in the league.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:31 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The closest guy to Val would probably be Andries Biendris (before he became crappy and had potential), except Val can shoot free throws.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:51 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Tyson Chandler? C'mon. Tyson's game is almost entirely based on his athleticism and strength: two attributes Valanciunas simply does not possess.

...Sure, Val can put on some lbs, but will it ever be enough? AND, will it be at the expense of his speed? Dude's a twig.


Not like Tyson Chandler was not a twig when he came into the NBA. He was like 7'0 220lbs.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Not like Tyson Chandler was not a twig when he came into the NBA. He was like 7'0 220lbs.
Made up for it with raw athleticism. For instance,how often does Valanciunas throw down alley-oops'? He's quick on his feet, but not the athletic-freak Chandler is.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:21 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I know I might get butchered, but I say Tim Duncan. I was not a fan of this pick, but the dude is 19 and showed that he can be one hell of a player.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:06 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Krstic was a good pick and pop player, whereas I believe Jonas has much more potential with his back to the basket. He also runs the floor much better, and showcases quicker ups. Defensively, I think Jonas will cover more ground, due to superior length, motor, quicks.
I agree. A quicker Krstic would be a more accurate comparison - Krstic nonetheless.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:08 AM   #27 (permalink)
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You think Chandler didn't get pushed around? If you think Jonas is a twig, then what the hell do you think Chandler was as a rookie?

You're seeing a rookie learning the physical toll of playing in this league. He'll have ups and downs all season.

How are Cousins and Patterson rejects?

You seem to want to find an even darker cloud than already exists for Raptor fans. What's the point in that?
They're crap enough to be worried is what I meant.
And that cloud cant get any darker.
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Old 12-10-2012, 04:10 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The closest guy to Val would probably be Andries Biendris (before he became crappy and had potential), except Val can shoot free throws.
Arguable.
Less capable on the defensive end, but more so on the offensive end.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:36 PM   #29 (permalink)
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20 games into a player's career you wont ever get a solid comparison.
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:11 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Noah without passing ability. Maybe a bit less brilliant defensively but more intense offensively. Kind of a center version of Kenneth Faried.
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I know I might get butchered, but I say Tim Duncan. I was not a fan of this pick, but the dude is 19 and showed that he can be one hell of a player.
I see Lamarcus Aldridge... look how long they both play, arms way up, solid fundamentals.... legit size.

Duncan had just so much offensive touch... he's a rare breed. I could see Marc Gasol or even Pau, depending on how his body develops.
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Made up for it with raw athleticism. For instance,how often does Valanciunas throw down alley-oops'? He's quick on his feet, but not the athletic-freak Chandler is.
He use to throw down aley oops in the national team all the time. Trust me athleticism is not the issue, it's confidence
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Not so sound like Superjudge, but whoever sees Kristic as a realistic comparison for JV doesn't understand basketball. Besides, why would we compare the best prospect for anything on this team to a jump shooting Euro who's back in Europe.

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I see Lamarcus Aldridge... look how long they both play, arms way up, solid fundamentals.... legit size.

Duncan had just so much offensive touch... he's a rare breed. I could see Marc Gasol or even Pau, depending on how his body develops.
I can see Mark if he will continue to work with Sabonis and hopefully Olajuwon. Pau not so much
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Not so sound like Superjudge, but whoever sees Kristic as a realistic comparison for JV doesn't understand basketball. Besides, why would we compare the best prospect for anything on this team to a jump shooting Euro who's back in Europe.
I consider my opinion objective, while clearly, this forum and other raptor fans are overly optimistic about JV's future. Neither party can come to a conclusion anyways. I'll bump this thread 3 years from now If JV ends up being the player I expect him to be.
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I consider my opinion objective, while clearly, this forum and other raptor fans are overly optimistic about JV's future. Neither party can come to a conclusion anyways. I'll bump this thread 3 years from now If JV ends up being the player I expect him to be.
Fair ball. Just saying you should watch Kristic run the floor and then watch Val. No comparison.
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:44 PM   #37 (permalink)
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These are some pretty stupid arguments you're making.

First off, JV is 7 feet and 240 or more (those are old numbers and they measure Euros barefoot). He's gonna get bigger for sure, and guys like Chandler and Pau Gasol were way skinnier than JV when they were rookies.

Second, you're comparing JV to players a lot further along in their careers. Tyson Chandler wasn't exactly a defensive anchor when he came into the NBA. Gasol has improved tremendously since his rookie season, as have many current NBA centers.

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