RealGM: Charting Toronto's Defensive Play
Old 04-01-2009, 08:47 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sunday evening, I began a new basketball project: tracking individual defensive stats for the Toronto Raptors . It began in the loosest of senses when I attended the Raps/Pacers game on the 15th, spilled over to the stat boards, continued on with a Thunder game and then at last took legitimate form as I watched the Raptors outlast the Bulls in an overtime game this past Sunday.

Borrowing liberally from a study begun by Schuyler Davis; some of his work is published over at basketball-statistics.com. The basic method is, at least for now, strikingly similar to the one Mr. Davis used. The details of his method can be found here.

Essentially, I looked at a host of defensive events discretely and recorded when a player either failed notably or played especially good defense. Average events were not recorded, nor would one person be reasonably capable of recording all of those anyway, bearing in mind that there are basically five defensive events happening on every possession.
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you want a better example of this the New York Times magazine did an article regarding the effectiveness of Shane Battier despite his lackluster stats. It's a great read if you don't worship a box score. In fact, I highly suggest anyone who sees this post read the article.

Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/ma...tier%20&st=cse

Beyond that, being quite involved in statistical analysis, I have my doubts that Tyler Sherkin can do this effectively. To excute this analysis properly, and for it to have any impact on anyone, you also need the statistics regarding every player and their tendencies. Otherwise, like you or I, you're basically saying, "Well, since Bosh put his arm up and player x missed his shot, that was an effective defensive play". As long as you're not too lazy, you can do the same analysis but in the end you realize everything he says is stuff you already know anyways.

Either way, good on him for doing something different than most Toronto-area analysts are.. Raptors wise I mean.
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Old 04-01-2009, 01:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Yeah hi! The article you mention was posted in the NBA section a couple weeks back by SJ. Great read.
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Old 04-01-2009, 02:52 PM   #5 (permalink)
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So he found that Jose is a poor defender. Which we all know anyways.
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Old 04-01-2009, 04:22 PM   #6 (permalink)
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My apologies, thanks for the welcome!

Oh, well all the better if it was. I found after reading it you start watching the game a tad differently. I don't want to hijack the thread though.

We'll see what he says after tonight, though. I hope he's taking actual numbers down so he can form a true analysis at the end of the season.
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You're in the right place, for the most part, if you don't worship the boxscore - as you put it.
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welcome thisorthat, and at this point, any reason not to ponder the woes of the Raptors is welcome

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