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Old 01-23-2012, 10:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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he's better than derozan, davis, bayless, forbes, magloire and on par with gray and amir. Oh yeah, he sucks.
How can he be on par with Gray and Amir when Gray isn't on par with anyone on this team?
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Barbosa's been the only one scoring the last few weeks or so. Without him we would be averaging 60-70 points a game.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:49 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Barbosa's been the only one scoring the last few weeks or so. Without him we would be averaging 60-70 points a game.
And he's second on the team in scoring. Don't know if we should re-sign him but there are much bigger problems on this team than Barbosa
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:51 PM   #24 (permalink)
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How can he be on par with Gray and Amir when Gray isn't on par with anyone on this team?
Did you not know Gray is the best inbounder in the league and Raptors history? come on man how can you not see that?
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:52 PM   #25 (permalink)
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And he's second on the team in scoring. Don't know if we should re-sign him but there are much bigger problems on this team than Barbosa
I actually think his defense has been solid too. He's really pesky and looks like he gives an effort, even more than DeMar on D. He started off the season horrible but is going back to his old ways on offense.


But yeah I couldn't give a shit if we kept him or not.
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How can he be on par with Gray and Amir when Gray isn't on par with anyone on this team?


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Re-signing Barbosa makes no sense for either party. Barbosa is a good player, don't be fooled by his chuck-syndrome. He could be a valuable piece for a championship caliber team coming off the bench. Why would he waste his time playing for us for another year?

Flipping LB for a mid first (or maybe even a late lottery pick depending on how Leandro plays) would be the sensible move for BC. We need talent, and in this draft there looks to be plenty of it. Time to stock pile picks boys.
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Old 01-24-2012, 06:36 AM   #28 (permalink)
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thanks DK.

To elaborate on my earlier post, obviously Barbosa is a skilled player and has some talent, but he totally does suck on this team. He's supposed to be some kind of distributor, but inevitabely becomes a black hole every time he's on the floor. He is a terrible fit for a rebuilding team, is getting up there in years and has a history of getting hurt. He has no business being part of a young team like ours. I know i have seen enough of a sample size to know that he this isn't working.
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Old 01-24-2012, 10:33 AM   #29 (permalink)
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He's supposed to be some kind of distributor,
If you think Barbosa is supposed to be a distributor then i have to guess you never watched him before he was traded here.
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If you think Barbosa is supposed to be a distributor then i have to guess you never watched him before he was traded here.


for a bad team like Raptors, Barbosa play simple and very effective.
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Re-signing Barbosa makes no sense for either party. Barbosa is a good player, don't be fooled by his chuck-syndrome. He could be a valuable piece for a championship caliber team coming off the bench. Why would he waste his time playing for us for another year?

Flipping LB for a mid first (or maybe even a late lottery pick depending on how Leandro plays) would be the sensible move for BC. We need talent, and in this draft there looks to be plenty of it. Time to stock pile picks boys.
Disagree and here's why..... our second most talented player, only 31, fast as fuck and ALWAYS playing with 100% energy.... is that worth a mid-first rounder? I think most overestimate mid-first round picks.... yeah, sometimes you get a granger or a bynum, but mostly you get a Joey Graham or Mo Pete. This team already has far too much youth and adding yet another mediocre young player only furthers the frustration and inconsistencies of the team.... Stockpiling picks at this point means you've resigned to not competing for at least another 5 years, and it's generally agreed that winning is what lures players in. My vote is to keep a LOW maintenance, well-liked player with talent when there are at least 8+ players on this team that need to be upgraded beyond him. No team is giving up their lottery pick for Barbosa without also dumping more salary on us either. Blows my mind, we finally get talent that doesn't complain about minutes and starting, scores the heck out of the basket, and we're an attrocious scoring team to boot.... not only that, it's not like our young prospects are scoring machines either. I think too many people on here see high-end potential as 100% probable to be reached and it just isn't reality. Don't even start telling me Bayless is as good as Barbosa..... it's just not true.
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If you think Barbosa is supposed to be a distributor then i have to guess you never watched him before he was traded here.
Yeah sure. I suppose that's why he often would get the ball at the start of a possession in something that would resemble the PG role (all of last year). I'll give Casey the benefit of the doubt in that i see less of that this year (the few times i have watched the matches), but it doesn't change the fact that he's got a bad case tunnel vision.
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you simply can't have a veteran who plays 1 on 5 as your main ball handler when you are trying to have your young guys grow in a throw-away year. getting everyone involved and buying in to a team system is of utmost importance. nearly everything barbosa does on the court is the opposite of that, even if he does like to hold the hands of his teammates.
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Guys... They can trade him AND re-sign him. No problems here. Everybody wins.
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:17 AM   #35 (permalink)
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you simply can't have a veteran who plays 1 on 5 as your main ball handler when you are trying to have your young guys grow in a throw-away year. getting everyone involved and buying in to a team system is of utmost importance. nearly everything barbosa does on the court is the opposite of that, even if he does like to hold the hands of his teammates.
I wish our young guys weren't afraid or incapable of doing what he does... and I'd suggest a winning mentality is important and that young players need practice time just as much as game time.... but I do see your side of it, just think it's a bit overstated.
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Guys... They can trade him AND re-sign him. No problems here. Everybody wins.
It's a fair point, but there is no guarantee of that happening.... a team could like what he brings and want to retain his services, he could find a place he likes more than TO, and frankly trading him away for the suggested mid-first is just not good value. Obviously I think Barbosa is too good for that.
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it could be what the jays tried to do with aaron hill and mcdonald, with trading them near the dead line to a potential playoff team, so they can get experience and then try re-signing them in the summer
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Old 01-24-2012, 11:24 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I wish our young guys weren't afraid or incapable of doing what he does... and I'd suggest a winning mentality is important and that young players need practice time just as much as game time.... but I do see your side of it, just think it's a bit overstated.
do you think barbosa is really infecting this team with a winning mentality by being a ballhog in lop-sided losses? talk about over-stated.
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Don't you guys get it? Talent isn't valuable. Only potential.
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do you think barbosa is really infecting this team with a winning mentality by being a ballhog in lop-sided losses? talk about over-stated.
that's exactly it. I could understand if the team was showing some kind of quality, but they're not. Lamond Murray used to put up good numbers when he was with the Cavs.
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