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Old 03-26-2008, 03:33 PM   #61 (permalink)
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don't you guys think TJ and kapono should be on the same line? TJ is drive and kick kind of guard and kapono can't really create his own shots and needs open looks.
Jose usually goes off pick and rolls and don't really utilize JK the way TJ possible could.

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Old 03-26-2008, 04:17 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Few minutes ago I met my 'buddy' Chuck Swirsky. He said Raps are trying to get TJ going and trying to 'shake up' things... I asked him about TJ being traded and he feels it will happen for sure in the off season since as he put it:"they cannot coexist"... he also said that although TJ is a great talent and great guy he is just immature...

He feels Raps have a chance tonight since Detroit is playing their 3rd game in 4 days...

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Old 03-26-2008, 04:20 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Few minutes ago I met my 'buddy' Chuck Swirsky. He said they just trying to get TJ going and trying to 'shake up' things... I asked him about TJ being traded and he feels it will happen for sure in the off season since as he put it:"they cannot coexist"... he said TJ is a great talent and great guy just immature...
Nice and thanks for the feedback Ivan. Did you and Chuck share some "salami & cheese" too?
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Nice and thanks for the feedback Ivan. Did you and Chuck share some "salami & cheese" too?
He went for my salami but I just gave him cheese...

Interesting thing is that he feels that TJ will be moved... if he, Mr. Raptor himself, is saying that it means that Raps are probably fed up with TJ...
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Great move in my opinion, maybe this move will jumpstart TJ to the TJ of old.
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Old 03-26-2008, 07:28 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Jose is the worst defensive pg in the history of civilization!

lol, I think you are overreacting a little bit
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:08 PM   #67 (permalink)
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so thriller, after watching the first half, who did a better job on defense?
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:40 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Ford is definitely faster and stays in front of his man, better. But Jose's height and reach is more effective against his man. Jose plays the angles well, but Ford can strip the ball off the opponent, too.

They have their moments, but both need work in defense, anyway.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:44 PM   #69 (permalink)
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That Ford is faster is undeniable. Nevertheless, for the whole game it was either Parker or Jose guarding Chauncey, including in crunch time. Which tells me that Sam doesn't agree with thriller that Jose is the worst defender in history ...
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TJ defended amazing in the third specially, Calde did a good job on Billups too. I still cant understand how Thriller can say that Caldes defense hasnt improved and that he is the worst PG defender in the league.
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Ford is definitely the better defender because of his quickness alone, but Jose isn't the siv that Thriller's making him out to be. His anticipation of opposing passes is very keen and one of the best in the league in my opinion and tonight eventhough his lateral quickness is non-existent, he still did an great job against guys like Billups, Hunter and Stucky.
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Old 03-26-2008, 09:53 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Jose is the worst defensive pg in the history of civilization!
Are you sure? well, I hope today game change your mind, he got two steals plus all those offensive faults on him, among other things, plus his gesture over his TEAMMATE can't even be describe with words!!!!!!!!!!!
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wow. both Ford and Calderon were great today.

Calderon played Billups very nicely on defense, and Ford was equally impressive. Defensively i give the nod to TJ between the two of them, but i think we all saw today that Jose CAN defend.

that was a great game.
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Ford can stop the drive better, but Detroit was taking advantage of the match-up because of Ford's height.
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1. people confuse quick with good.
2. Jose is fast, and he plays good honest Defence.
3. I have yet to read any type of valid, or legitimate explanation from Thriller. Hell, I doubt he even knows the basic principles of Basketball defence. I watch Jose all the time and he is very fundamentally sound. Toronto as a team plays horrid help Defence, they don't have a solid defender in any position, although moon and parker are ok, they aint stoppers. Both Tj and Jose get lit up continually. There's a reason, and it aint cuz they aren't good defenders.
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Still, my question is, why did Sam put Jose on Chauncey (when Jose was in the game), or Parker when Jose was out? If TJ is such a superior defender, with his quickness and all that?
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post up. billups can murder tj in the post. he'll brutalize Jose too, but at least he's got some size.
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2. Jose is fast, and he plays good honest Defence.
3. I have yet to read any type of valid, or legitimate explanation from Thriller. Hell, I doubt he even knows the basic principles of Basketball defence. I watch Jose all the time and he is very fundamentally sound. Toronto as a team plays horrid help Defence, they don't have a solid defender in any position, although moon and parker are ok, they aint stoppers. Both Tj and Jose get lit up continually. There's a reason, and it aint cuz they aren't good defenders.
Jose doesnt play good honest defence. It's one or the other, you like Jose and the Smitch, Jose continually directs PG's one way and theres never any help, its either hes lazy and hes unwilling to play his man straight up or we just have no direction and system on defence and Smitch is a complete fucking idiot. Theres no middle ground. Even when he isnt directing traffic guys are getting by him with ease, he should have the sense to learn by now we dont know what we're doing behind him especially when Rasho isnt in. Is his bball IQ low? Nah. Somethings wrong there.

Any contributing PG can be hidden in a good defensive system, even though they may be well below average defensively. Just look at Tony Parker in SA and guys like Eddie House and Damon Jones. They can stay out on the floor for extended periods of time and you cant say theyve been an extreme detriment on defence even though none of them can really defend a lick.
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TJ played good D because it was his first game back as a starter and he was jacked up and wanted to prove that he deserves to be starting... give him game or two and I am sure he will revert to standard issue TJ we all know...
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TJ played good D because it was his first game back as a starter and he wanted to look good... I am sure he will revert to standard issue TJ in a game or two...
Actually IMO you just saw it. Looked just like he did last year. Get used to it.. Go Raps
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