Rasho & Ford Back In Starting Lineup ... Jose's Out - Page 2
Old 03-26-2008, 12:45 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I love the move by Jose.

However, the more I think about it, the more I realize that these two aren't gonna be on the same team possibly as soon as the end of this season and surely the next. Something is gonna give. And honestly, even IF TJ does play well, the hate will be there. This I guarantee.
I doubt it - if Tj would play well consistently, there would be no hate to begin with. It's not like anybody has something personal with TJ.
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Old 03-26-2008, 12:46 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Jose read my posts and now he is getting credit for the idea.

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Old 03-26-2008, 12:46 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I completely agree with Moremilk. Caldes defense has improved and Tjs is worst than ever, Right now Calde>Tj on defense.
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:01 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You guys are fucking insane. Jose is probably the worst defensive PG in the entire league. When TJ is starting hes been average at least. Chauncey ate Jose for breakfast.
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when was our last game against Detroit Thriller? back when we were doing more or less well, right now, for the four last games or so, Tj has been TERRIBLE on defense, and calde has improved. Calde has always being terrible one on one and good on helping defense. Calde has done well one on one lately, Tj has being terrible. Tj is a really good defender but not lately. Calde>Tj on defense right now.
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:07 PM   #26 (permalink)
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still, defense is a lot about effort. It's possible that TJ didn't feel like playing defense. We'll see.

All in all, it's a good move for a few reasons. Jose cannot complain since he asked for it (with a true heart or not, who knows - maybe he was expecting Sam to say no), TJ value might increase if he plays well, Jose's value will surely decrease, since most people will not hear about the part where he asked for it, the thing that will stay in their minds will be that he was demoted. And finally, if it doesn't work, then Sam will get a lot of blame for this, because in the end it was his decision ...
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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As it was so eloquently stated above... got nothing to lose at this point
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:15 PM   #28 (permalink)
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As it was so eloquently stated above... got nothing to lose at this point
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So true. I mean, the team has what? lost 6 of the last 7 games? Do you remember when we were 10 games above .500?
Might as well try every trick in the book. Anything to shock some life into this listless team of ours.
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:22 PM   #29 (permalink)
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when was our last game against Detroit Thriller? back when we were doing more or less well, right now, for the four last games or so, Tj has been TERRIBLE on defense, and calde has improved. Calde has always being terrible one on one and good on helping defense. Calde has done well one on one lately, Tj has being terrible. Tj is a really good defender but not lately. Calde>Tj on defense right now.
I'm not talking about just detroit, even though Detroit was the main one to exploit Jose. Its every game vs basically every pg. Part of it is him trying to force the opposition one way where he thinks help is and it isnt there, but most of the time its him just not being quick and smart enough. Saying hes improved on defence over the past few games is ridiculous.
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well. thats you opinion.
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:32 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Last few games:

Iverson torched him, CLE and MIA had no one so he got a break there, Deron torched him after 1st qtr, Beno had a good start to the game even though he ended 6/15, but he missed a ton of open looks, Iverson the game before that, Baron/Ellis had like 60 combined and Baron had 13 assists, and Fisher the game before that in one of Joses worst games. So tell me, how has Jose improved on D in that stretch?
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:36 PM   #32 (permalink)
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WOW wow wow.

I don't like this move that much, but fuck it. Jose is just too much of a nice guy.

I'd love to see TJ take advantage of the opportunity. I just wish it didn't get handed to him on a silver platter like this (reminds me of jalen Rose).

In the end, if this brings us a victory, i will be pretty happy.
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what a horrendously bad move. except for the fact that Jose recommended it, we're rewarding a guy for poor play. big gamble smitch. let's hope it pays off.
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I'd love to see TJ take advantage of the opportunity. I just wish it didn't get handed to him on a silver platter like this (reminds me of jalen Rose).

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Well that's cause you're looking at it through the eyes of a Jose fan. TJ didn't do anything to deserve losing his starting job either did he? From that perspective, it's about time

...granted, he hasn't done much since returning to deserve getting it back from the point Bosh went down either and thus by the grace of Jose he returns, but still
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Old 03-26-2008, 01:42 PM   #36 (permalink)
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The reason I still see TJ getting hate? Because if he does perform well, I guarantee you some fans will get up and say, look, he was doggin' it on the bench. He had "VC syndrome". Honestly, I can just see it happening, and we all know who here amongst us will be one of the first people to say that....
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ummm, I didnt know it was Caldes job to defend Baron and Iverson, I tought that was parkers job. And I havent said he has done really good agaisnt them, I said he has done "better", he did a good job on Deron and has improved one on one. Fishers game was like 7 games ago or more. He has done a better job to stay in front of them lately. And for SURE better than TJ, who has been a little better on offense but much much worse on defense. He looks completely passive on defense.
Im not saying Calde is a better than TJ on defense, Im saying right NOW he is defending better.

BTW sorry fir of using the word Defense too much.
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Wow... desperation move for sure... this will either shake up or completely destroy the team... time will tell...
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The reason I still see TJ getting hate? Because if he does perform well, I guarantee you some fans will get up and say, look, he was doggin' it on the bench. He had "VC syndrome". Honestly, I can just see it happening, and we all know who here amongst us will be one of the first people to say that....
If TJ does well it will mean he was dogging it on the bench. He has VC syndrome. :hawkeye:
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