RaptorsForum Trade Proposals Thread

Dr. J. Naismith · 05-02-2008, 10:14 AM

As per HoopsNations request, I've started a thread for peeps to post there proposals or rumours heard out there in the media world.

Go crazy guys.

**Benzo** · 05-02-2008, 10:15 AM

Whos HoopsNation???

I would like to trade him.

moremilk · 05-02-2008, 01:24 PM

I say we trade joey graham for danny granger

Jackson Filth · 05-02-2008, 01:53 PM

Ford + garbs expiring contract for Nick Collison and Luke Ridnour

Ford for David Lee and Jared Jefferies

Ford + conditional 1st for Varejao + West

thats all i've got

MangoKidHoops · 05-02-2008, 02:53 PM

Bosh and Garbajosa to Atlanta for Horford, Marvin Williams and Acie Law
Why For Toronto? AT this point, it's hard to give up Bosh, a 3-time all star and a fan favourite, but I can't see Bosh and Bargnani playing on the court at the same time, especially if they're both going to play the perimeter. Horford would play the 5 and give the team toughness and rebounding. Marvin Williams, at 6-9, 245 is a small forward that few could match up with.
Why for Atlanta? They make a splash and bring a recognizable name home (Bosh played 1 year at Georgia Tech). Team Bosh up with Joe Johnson, Josh Smith and Mike Bibby and they have a formidable 4. Garbo's contract runs out at the end of the season and probably returns to Europe

And

Ford, Nesterovic and a future 1st to Dallas for Josh Howard and Erick Dampier
Why for Toronto? Another wing player - would probably move to the 2 if Williams is acquired. Howard although had problems in Dallas is a long, athetic swingman this team has been looking for since the Carter trade.
Why for Dallas? Ford goes back to his home state and becomes the heir apparent to Jason Kidd. Nesterovic is a free agent at the end of the year and they get rid of that awful Dampier contract. The sweetner is the future 1st.

**Acie** · 05-02-2008, 02:59 PM

IMO there is no way Atlanta trades Horford now - even for Bosh. He's a beast and he came to play in the playoffs. If Atlanta is going to make a splash it'll be for a PG because Bibby is a shell of his former self.

Major · 05-02-2008, 09:42 PM

I don't care what, unless TJ's gone for a good PG then i'm happy

**Jay** · 05-02-2008, 11:32 PM

Just to prove how ridiculous this thread is going to get, the fact that people are talking about Horford in any sort of trade off the top should be proof enough...

thriller92 · 05-03-2008, 02:13 AM

I think a Marvin Williams for Ford trade isnt out of the question. ATL isnt gonna sign both Williams and Smith this offseason with their management the way it is I dont think, so I think Williams can be had.

Actually come to think of it itd make a lot of sense for both teams. ATL would turn into a powerhouse if they could fill the SF spot with a veteran shooter type and a couple bench pieces, and we get the other scorer we need, and Marvin is a very good defender from what I've seen this year.

JattDogg · 05-03-2008, 11:11 AM

Bosh for howard

moremilk · 05-03-2008, 02:48 PM

I'd rather have childress than marvin, it will probably come cheaper and marvin plays too much like Bosh imo. Childress is more of a nocioni kind of player, a hustler ...

thriller92 · 05-03-2008, 03:46 PM

We dont need a Nocioni type player, we need a scorer who can play some defence and Marvin fits that bill perfectly.

And how does Marvin play like Bosh at all? The only similarity is they both take a high% of their shots from the mid range area, thats it.

**Acie** · 05-03-2008, 06:16 PM

We don't need a Nocioni type player?

Last I checked we were soft and lacking anyone with any stones.

Nocioni = a more skilled, quicker Garbo.

I think we could definitely use a guy like that in addition to someone like you mentioned.

The MVP of West Hollywood · 05-03-2008, 06:52 PM

Actually I'd do that Williams trade. He's only 21 and put up 15/6 this year, and if you take him away from Joe Johnson dominating the ball and gave him more freedom, that might've been even better. He definitley has 20ppg potential, I think he's a hugely underrated asset to be honest. I also have to think Atlanta would love to have TJ's speed in their system.

I'd prefer that deal to Nocioni. I'm not up to date on that cap situation though, how much does Atlanta have under this year again? A problem is that TJ makes 8 mil, wouldn't that be more expensive than resigning Marvin? Or maybe we'd toss them some of our expirings to make it work.

thriller92 · 05-03-2008, 07:31 PM

Quote:

We don't need a Nocioni type player?

Last I checked we were soft and lacking anyone with any stones.

Nocioni = a more skilled, quicker Garbo.

I think we could definitely use a guy like that in addition to someone like you mentioned.

I didnt mean he wouldnt be a player thatd be a good fit, I meant that he wouldnt be the solution to our problem in the scoring and defence department, and if he got traded here we'd more than likely stop looking for a 2nd scorer.

Itd obviously be fantastic getting him to be our 6th man, but I dont think he'd be brought into this team to come off the bench because right now hes better than all of our swingmen obviously, and although im not sure of his contract numbers he'd probably take up a decent part of our cap that we could have used to get that 2nd guy we need.

In other words, Marvin>>>>>Nocioni

**Acie** · 05-03-2008, 10:14 PM

Marvin reminds me of a young Tim Thomas minus the 3pt shooting (not necessarily a bad thing), however I actually like Childress better.

I think anything of value in return for TJ would be just swell.

thriller92 · 05-04-2008, 03:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACIEEARL40

Marvin reminds me of a young Tim Thomas minus the 3pt shooting (not necessarily a bad thing), however I actually like Childress better.

I think anything of value in return for TJ would be just swell.

When did Thomas play hard and play defence?

Dr. J. Naismith · 05-04-2008, 10:17 PM

Rumour: Heat are expressing interest in Ford.

Quote:

If the Heat cannot draft Derrick Rose, one potential point-guard trade option who intrigues management is Toronto's T.J. Ford (the Raptors say they will keep Jose Calderon).

Source - Click here

**Acie** · 05-04-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thriller92

When did Thomas play hard and play defence?

There were a few brief moments in his early days with the Bucks.

MangoKidHoops · 05-05-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. J. Naismith

Rumour: Heat are expressing interest in Ford.

Source - Click here

I'd do this in a heartbeat. Especially if it were top-7. Ford + Toronto pick for Miami pick. And with that pick, I'd use it on Brook Lopez or Eric Gordon.

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The MVP of West Hollywood is it's so cold in the d Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,148 Representing:	Actually I'd do that Williams trade. He's only 21 and put up 15/6 this year, and if you take him away from Joe Johnson dominating the ball and gave him more freedom, that might've been even better. He definitley has 20ppg potential, I think he's a hugely underrated asset to be honest. I also have to think Atlanta would love to have TJ's speed in their system. I'd prefer that deal to Nocioni. I'm not up to date on that cap situation though, how much does Atlanta have under this year again? A problem is that TJ makes 8 mil, wouldn't that be more expensive than resigning Marvin? Or maybe we'd toss them some of our expirings to make it work. Last edited by The MVP of West Hollywood; 05-03-2008 at 06:56 PM.

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05-02-2008, 10:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Benzo is thinking himself a Smart Benzo Fairly Anonymous As**hole Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 6,244 Representing:	Whos HoopsNation??? I would like to trade him.

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moremilk is whatever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 4,911 Representing:	I say we trade joey graham for danny granger

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Jackson Filth is smelly like poop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,638 Representing:	Ford + garbs expiring contract for Nick Collison and Luke Ridnour Ford for David Lee and Jared Jefferies Ford + conditional 1st for Varejao + West thats all i've got

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MangoKidHoops is dead inside. Scarborough, We Go Hard.. Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sheppard-Meadowvale Posts: 6,470 Representing:	Bosh and Garbajosa to Atlanta for Horford, Marvin Williams and Acie Law Why For Toronto? AT this point, it's hard to give up Bosh, a 3-time all star and a fan favourite, but I can't see Bosh and Bargnani playing on the court at the same time, especially if they're both going to play the perimeter. Horford would play the 5 and give the team toughness and rebounding. Marvin Williams, at 6-9, 245 is a small forward that few could match up with. Why for Atlanta? They make a splash and bring a recognizable name home (Bosh played 1 year at Georgia Tech). Team Bosh up with Joe Johnson, Josh Smith and Mike Bibby and they have a formidable 4. Garbo's contract runs out at the end of the season and probably returns to Europe And Ford, Nesterovic and a future 1st to Dallas for Josh Howard and Erick Dampier Why for Toronto? Another wing player - would probably move to the 2 if Williams is acquired. Howard although had problems in Dallas is a long, athetic swingman this team has been looking for since the Carter trade. Why for Dallas? Ford goes back to his home state and becomes the heir apparent to Jason Kidd. Nesterovic is a free agent at the end of the year and they get rid of that awful Dampier contract. The sweetner is the future 1st.

05-02-2008, 02:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Acie is all about execution and effort. Electric Kool-Aid Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 14,048 Representing:	IMO there is no way Atlanta trades Horford now - even for Bosh. He's a beast and he came to play in the playoffs. If Atlanta is going to make a splash it'll be for a PG because Bibby is a shell of his former self.

05-02-2008, 09:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
Major is dead inside. Senior Member, Eh? Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,640 Representing:	I don't care what, unless TJ's gone for a good PG then i'm happy

05-02-2008, 11:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
Jay is dead inside. Administrator Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,254 Representing:	Just to prove how ridiculous this thread is going to get, the fact that people are talking about Horford in any sort of trade off the top should be proof enough...

05-03-2008, 02:13 AM	#9 (permalink)
thriller92 is thinking about whats to come. Calderon has eyes Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,882 Representing:	I think a Marvin Williams for Ford trade isnt out of the question. ATL isnt gonna sign both Williams and Smith this offseason with their management the way it is I dont think, so I think Williams can be had. Actually come to think of it itd make a lot of sense for both teams. ATL would turn into a powerhouse if they could fill the SF spot with a veteran shooter type and a couple bench pieces, and we get the other scorer we need, and Marvin is a very good defender from what I've seen this year.

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05-03-2008, 02:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
moremilk is whatever Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: toronto Posts: 4,911 Representing:	I'd rather have childress than marvin, it will probably come cheaper and marvin plays too much like Bosh imo. Childress is more of a nocioni kind of player, a hustler ...

05-03-2008, 03:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
thriller92 is thinking about whats to come. Calderon has eyes Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 4,882 Representing:	We dont need a Nocioni type player, we need a scorer who can play some defence and Marvin fits that bill perfectly. And how does Marvin play like Bosh at all? The only similarity is they both take a high% of their shots from the mid range area, thats it.

05-03-2008, 06:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Acie is all about execution and effort. Electric Kool-Aid Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 14,048 Representing:	We don't need a Nocioni type player? Last I checked we were soft and lacking anyone with any stones. Nocioni = a more skilled, quicker Garbo. I think we could definitely use a guy like that in addition to someone like you mentioned.

05-03-2008, 10:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Acie is all about execution and effort. Electric Kool-Aid Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 14,048 Representing:	Marvin reminds me of a young Tim Thomas minus the 3pt shooting (not necessarily a bad thing), however I actually like Childress better. I think anything of value in return for TJ would be just swell.