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Old 11-30-2012, 01:25 PM   #121 (permalink)
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If Stefanski isn't our next GM I'll eat my shoes.
i'm at the point where that can't happen soon enough for me...actually, i don't care who they hire

BC (and half of this team) needs to go...now
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:25 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Then how about we pick up JSmoove on the free agency giving him max? everyone comes for the right money.....
We get to keep Bargnani and calderon
TANK TANK TANK TANK....
What we get the lowest W/L% and get a 25% at wiggins
I think lowry will re-sign here honestly, we have given him good oportunities and have treated him right.

Lowry/Calderon
DeRozan/Ross
Wiggins/Pietrus
Smith/Davis
JV/Bargs

Even better....
Its obvious that alot has to go right and a little bit of luck has got to go our way but i dont think its out of reach
You're smart..
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:27 PM   #123 (permalink)
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The thing I like about this signing is that its a sign that management hasn't given up belief that the Raptors could make the playoffs this season by electing to bring in a contributing veteran rather than focusing on developing the prospects.

What I don't like and borderline hate is that,even though Pietrus maybe the best option to play SF right now,guys like Ross and Kleiza who haven't been given much of a shot but shown some stuff when they've been given the opportunity,will likely get reduced minutes. I think they all have the same impact on results for this team essentially,but Ross has the highest ceiling (while the other two have peaked as NBA pros)so hopefully he still gets more playing time.

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Old 11-30-2012, 01:48 PM   #124 (permalink)
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The thing I like about this signing is that its a sign that management hasn't given up belief that the Raptors could make the playoffs this season by electing to bring in a contributing veteran rather than focusing on developing the prospects.

What I don't like and borderline hate is that,even though Pietrus maybe the best option to play SF right now,guys like Ross and Kleiza who haven't been given much of a shot but shown some stuff when they've been given the opportunity,will likely get reduced minutes. I think they all have the same impact on results for this team essentially,but Ross has the highest ceiling so(while the other two have peaked as NBA)so hopefully he still gets more playing time.


Kleiza will start tonight and eventually back him up so he'll get 20mpg untill AA/Fields get back, and Ross will backup Derozan and play 15mpg. Not a whole lot changes. McGuire was getting 17-20mpg, Pietrus depending how he plays will get 20-25mpg in all likelyhood.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:52 PM   #125 (permalink)
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The good part is our defense got way better and I prefer a SF whos top 5 D or top 5 O, than one that is not good in either. Seems like it could be a decent improvment TBH if he's not hurt.

I mean ... it can't hurt, and its one year.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:54 PM   #126 (permalink)
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McGuire was getting 17-20mpg,
Smh at this! He must've played like an All Star in practice,behind closed doors,because what I saw from in during the games as either nothing or nothing short of rubbish. Truthfully,he didn't play as bad as Fields but he didn't earn those minutes from his in game performances.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:07 PM   #127 (permalink)
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we're not nearly done but you can't say it's not an upgrade, and a bad move considering mcguire was starting for us, can you?
It's a lateral move at best.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:14 PM   #128 (permalink)
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Sidebar: David Stern is a bum for that statement on the Spurs. Pop is a legendary coach who made a good call in relation to the dumb schedule. I wanted San Antonio to win so bad. If they had Pietrus and sent him home,it wouldn't be a big deal. Even if the game was on a local broadcasting station he probably wouldn't care but the big network partner(TNT) had to be all butt hurt. Next time,he should make them take the opening tip and sub them out after the first whistle.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:18 PM   #129 (permalink)
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The thing I like about this signing is that its a sign that management hasn't given up belief that the Raptors could make the playoffs this season by electing to bring in a contributing veteran rather than focusing on developing the prospects.

What I don't like and borderline hate is that,even though Pietrus maybe the best option to play SF right now,guys like Ross and Kleiza who haven't been given much of a shot but shown some stuff when they've been given the opportunity,will likely get reduced minutes. I think they all have the same impact on results for this team essentially,but Ross has the highest ceiling (while the other two have peaked as NBA pros)so hopefully he still gets more playing time.
The management can't help but care - it's their asses on the line, all the way up to BC.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:33 PM   #130 (permalink)
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WTF happened to McGuire? I thought GS was gunna thoroughly miss him? Thought he was supposed to be a defensive stopper? I didn't really see him do anything out there actually.
I watched the Casey interview where McGuire was called the "defensive stopper"...looks like desperation time
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:53 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Sidebar: David Stern is a bum for that statement on the Spurs. Pop is a legendary coach who made a good call in relation to the dumb schedule. I wanted San Antonio to win so bad. If they had Pietrus and sent him home,it wouldn't be a big deal. Even if the game was on a local broadcasting station he probably wouldn't care but the big network partner(TNT) had to be all butt hurt. Next time,he should make them take the opening tip and sub them out after the first whistle.
In a way I agree with Stern, was angry as hell myself when found out last minute that Spurs' big 3 weren't playing in so long waited game (( On the other hand, teams have right to rest players, but come on, 15 games in the season and they are tired? If they're that old then retire, damn you.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:56 PM   #132 (permalink)
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So what will happen to Kleiza and Anderson when injured SFs return?

SF: Fields/Pietrus/Anderson/Kleiza ???

Fields will play in SG more, Ross WILL get less minutes, Kleiza will not play at PF when Davis is showing progress latelly.
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Old 11-30-2012, 02:57 PM   #133 (permalink)
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So, let me see our SF lineups here..

Landry Fields - 21.4MPG, 2.4PPG
Dominic McGuire - 15.3MPG, 2.1PPG
Alan Anderson - 20.7MPG, 7.3PPG
Linas Kleiza - 20.2MPG, 7.2PPG

It really is pathetic. Among these four guys, best 3pt shooter is Alan Anderson with 29.6%...

If Pietrus is in healthy condition and is able to consistently put #'s similar to his career stats (8.4PPG, 35.7% 3P, 21.9MPG), we will be able to score additional 5 Points each game, assuming we had him in place of McGwire and other Craptors.

That means, if we had Pietrus from beginning of season, we COULD HAVE RESULTED IN:

Oct 31 - vs Indiana 93-90 W
Nov 7 - @ Dallas 104-104 -> OT WIN
Nov 12 - vs Utah no OT loss, just WIN
Nov 21 - @ Charlotte 102-98 W
Nov 23 - @ Detroit 95-94 W

We could have been 8-8 or 7-9, not 3-13..

We played 1/5 of regular season only and still have lots of games remaining.
Let's see if Pietrus plays well and earns his contract renewal this year
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It's a lateral move at best.
I'd suggest at worst also.
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So what will happen to Kleiza and Anderson when injured SFs return?

SF: Fields/Pietrus/Anderson/Kleiza ???

Fields will play in SG more, Ross WILL get less minutes, Kleiza will not play at PF when Davis is showing progress latelly.
I'm pretty sure Ross will not lose his minutes. DD/Ross will split playing minutes as SG and Fields/Pietrus will split playing minutes as SF.

Anderson will be 3rd stringer for both positions.

We can trade Kleiza to any team that needs bench scorer, like Blazers..
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I'm pretty sure Ross will not lose his minutes. DD/Ross will split playing minutes as SG and Fields/Pietrus will split playing minutes as SF.

Anderson will be 3rd stringer for both positions.

We can trade Kleiza to any team that needs bench scorer, like Blazers..
Agreed.... Ross has taken Fields' minutes for good. Landry will be a bench guy, that much is clear now. Linas and Pietrus are the SF spot... Landry will be a deoth guy, as he should, and hopefully he takes to the role and thrives.
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It's a lateral move at best.

Again, gotta love these blanket statements. Lol

First of all, we don't know what impact he'll have on the rest of the team. Sometimes the smallest of moves shakes things up enough to get something going. Second, to say this guy is no better than McGuire is crazy. Third, he's motivated to play for another contract with us or someone else.

How about we wait a couple weeks and see what impact he might have. Then judge, he hasn't played in months so his first 5 games might be ugly. lol
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:17 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Agreed.... Ross has taken Fields' minutes for good. Landry will be a bench guy, that much is clear now. Linas and Pietrus are the SF spot... Landry will be a deoth guy, as he should, and hopefully he takes to the role and thrives.

IMO Fields will play ahead of Kleiza when he's back in shape. Hell we started McGuire ahead of Linas which speaks to the confidence we have in him. Add to that Fields contract and they will want to give him a fair shake when he's finally healthy in a couple weeks to justify the $$. Then if they still want to give Ross minutes it'll be at Anderson's expense imo. Kleiza hasn't done a thing to earn the backup SF role outright.

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Old 11-30-2012, 03:23 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Again, gotta love these blanket statements. Lol

First of all, we don't know what impact he'll have on the rest of the team. Sometimes the smallest of moves shakes things up enough to get something going. Second, to say this guy is no better than McGuire is crazy. Third, he's motivated to play for another contract with us or someone else.

How about we wait a couple weeks and see what impact he might have. Then judge, he hasn't played in months so his first 5 games might be ugly. lol
I admire your optimism jeff.... I do.... but this isn't Bruce Bowen or Artest that we're getting.... it's a player that's coming here about 5-6 years too late.

Classic Leafs move.
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Old 11-30-2012, 03:27 PM   #140 (permalink)
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I admire your optimism jeff.... I do.... but this isn't Bruce Bowen or Artest that we're getting.... it's a player that's coming here about 5-6 years too late.

Classic Leafs move.

I agree this isn't a star or anything. And not a long term answer for this team but he might have a decent impact on this team of young players. He's only 30 and is apparently healthy. He's an upgrade over McGuire and hopefull he's more consistent than Kleiza. We'll see.
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