Raptors are sentence to loose
Old 11-12-2013, 03:54 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Realy guys. Raps is like school team. 2 guys attempted 62 shoots! Guys, why then we need 10 other players? What the hell DC is thinking. Where the hell is team play.. It's pathetic to watch Raptors game. Something need to change. This team is even worse than last year. Wow how angry I am.
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Old 11-12-2013, 03:58 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Lol I think it's better for you to just follow some other team or something and maybe come back next year.
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Old 11-12-2013, 07:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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It's baffling how many shots they've taken. Spread the wealth. Take away twenty shots from them and we win

No one wants bad contracts. Rudy will not be traded for and demar will be stuck here for a while thanks to bc unless sixers want for turner to up there tanking chances

Nba has changed no one is giving out extensions that easily. We could have waited on demar in the summer probably would have saved 5 million on the cap yearly because nobody would have put an offer in free agency like pekovic in minny

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Old 11-12-2013, 10:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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This team is even worse than last year. Wow how angry I am.
dude.. wait till we play 20+ games. Then you can start crying like a baby.
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Old 11-12-2013, 11:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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dude.. wait till we play 20+ games. Then you can start crying like a baby.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Raps are playing as good as every other team in the league, team records are very similar.. I ain't mad at that.. it's better then 4-19 so far
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:12 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It's baffling how many shots they've taken. Spread the wealth. Take away twenty shots from them and we win

No one wants bad contracts. Rudy will not be traded for and demar will be stuck here for a while thanks to bc unless sixers want for turner to up there tanking chances

Nba has changed no one is giving out extensions that easily. We could have waited on demar in the summer probably would have saved 5 million on the cap yearly because nobody would have put an offer in free agency like pekovic in minny
Even if DD is overpaid (and that's a big if) he is more than 4 mil player..
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:37 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Even if DD is overpaid (and that's a big if) he is more than 4 mil player..
that's not such a big if.
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Old 11-12-2013, 12:49 PM   #9 (permalink)
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that's not such a big if.
Sometimes I wonder if you really hate Demar that much or are you just playing this game for the sake of it.
For whatever reason he is playing like crap this year, but most of us know that it is not going to last. Derozan from last year is worth 9mil

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Sometimes I wonder if you really hate Demar that much or are you just playing this game for the sake of it.
For whatever reason he is playing like crap this year, but most of us know that is not going to last. Derozan from last year is worth 9mil
It's not about hate, it's about cost. How much did Kevin Martin sign for this offseason?
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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It's not about hate, it's about cost. How much did Kevin Martin sign for this offseason?
They were/are banking on future expectations. Not unheard of.

Secondly, I'd like to see more of a defined role for him before I criticize him or his contract. I think if you see him in a proper offense and defense setting he'd be right at his value.

And Kevin Martin last season wasn't that good.
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Old 11-12-2013, 01:11 PM   #12 (permalink)
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It's not about hate, it's about cost. How much did Kevin Martin sign for this offseason?

I think he was payed around 12 last year and he was not worth that money. Demar was playing much better. KM came back to life this year and is playing much better. He is getting over 6mil(i think)
If he would sign new contract today do you think it would still be 6mil?

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Old 11-12-2013, 01:13 PM   #13 (permalink)
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DD = 9.5 million/season, not 9 million/season

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They were/are banking on future expectations. Not unheard of.

Secondly, I'd like to see more of a defined role for him before I criticize him or his contract. I think if you see him in a proper offense and defense setting he'd be right at his value.

And Kevin Martin last season wasn't that good.
my point is that we're paying for future expectations without actually being certain we'll receive them. Not everyone has to believe he'll ascend to some level he's yet to achieve, even after hearing how he feels even more confident every training camp and how he's worked on so much.

There is value to be found around the league, I just don't see DD in that realm.
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KMart didn't have a horrible season last year. Him and DD were actually pretty comparable. DD actually wasn't playing "much" better. Pure scorer off the bench with established options in the starting lineup (aka KMart) versus a guy starting all games and all the minutes he could handle and being a top option of the team on offense (DD). In most offensive %ages (both advanced and non-advanced) KMart>DD last season. In many non-offensive %ages (advanced and non-advanced) DD > Kmart. In ORTG, DRTG, OWS, DWS, WS Totals and WS/48 minutes - KMart>DD.

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KMart didn't have a horrible season last year. Him and DD were actually pretty comparable. DD actually wasn't playing "much" better. Pure scorer off the bench with established options in the starting lineup (aka KMart) versus a guy starting all games and all the minutes he could handle and being a top option of the team on offense (DD). In most offensive %ages (both advanced and non-advanced) KMart>DD last season. In many non-offensive %ages (advanced and non-advanced) DD > Kmart. In ORTG, DRTG, OWS, DWS, WS Totals and WS/48 minutes - KMart>DD.

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Are you alright? Whenever you get presented with any sort of statistics you come up with some sort of weird or sarcastic comments. DD did improve last season and this season too but we all still see the essential flaws in his game if we admit it or not (and not only is that seen with the eye test but it's backed up by stats). Being objective isn't a bad thing.
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Are you alright? Whenever you get presented with any sort of statistics you come up with some sort of weird or sarcastic comments. DD did improve last season and this season too but we all still see the essential flaws in his game if we admit it or not (and not only is that seen with the eye test but it's backed up by stats). Being objective isn't a bad thing.
I have nothing against stats. You cant base everything on it though
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I have nothing against stats. You cant base everything on it though
Clearly you do or you don't look or care for them. I don't base everything on them. I watch games and usually stats back up what I observe and claim. You can't base everything on the eye test either.
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