Raptors Republic: Where Does DeRozan Fit?
Old 07-21-2009, 10:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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The Toronto Raptors swung for the fences with the #9 overall pick this year. In a draft thought to have very little superstar talent but a bevy of serviceable role players, Bryan Colangelo et al took the player still on the board who had the highest upside, USC product: DeMar DeRozan.

Irrelevant to this article, I went back and forth in my head trying to figure out my feelings on DeMar as the pick. On one hand, he wasn’t a superstar at USC. On the other, though, he showed marked improvement as a college freshman, wanted to come to Toronto, and is a highlight reel waiting to happen. Throw in his YouTube highlight reels and his apparent commitment to being a better player at both ends of the floor, and I was sold.

So as summer league took place I tried to watch closely. I ended up watching two and a half of the Raptors’ five games, and read as much as possible about the games afterward. A few days removed from the entire experience, and I’m still trying to figure something out…

Where exactly does DeRozan fit with the Raptors?

By all accounts, he is ready to be a contributor. He scored with relative ease in the Pac-10 and the Summer League, his defense will be serviceable, and his shooting touch seems to have developed even since the end of the college season in March. The reports I have read, and my own observations, lead me to believe that DeRozan should fit in with this current Raptors squad immediately. A David Thorpe tweet (I can’t believe I’m citing tweets) outlined the following:

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DeMar DeRozan really comes off the curl with speed, balance and elevation-very controlled. Will come off a decade’s worth of pindowns.
ESPN.com’s TrueHoop added the following:

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He also rarely takes a bad shot — uncommon among rookies and in Summer League, and particularly uncommon among rookies in Summer League.
It’s clear that DeRozan is ready to be an efficient contributor. His ability to get an open look, his open-court athleticism, and his beyond-his-age decision making should make him a popular target for Jose Calderon, Chris Bosh, and Hedo Turkoglu. The Raptors project as a team that shares the ball pretty well, with four of five potential starters (Bosh, Calderon, Turkoglu, and DeRozan) capable of handling the rock, creating their own shot, and finding teammates. For a team that did well spacing the floor and moving the ball last season, DeRozan’s offensive fluidity and versatility should be a welcome addition.

While DeRozan may be an immediate fit, as I mentioned, the Raptors were hoping to swing for the fences with this pick. An NBA-ready contributor with the #9 pick is nothing to be upset about, but if Colangelo was hoping to add another superstar to pair with Chris Bosh moving forward, there are still question marks. Another David Thrope tweet explains:

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I don’t see DeRozan force plays very much. That’s both good and bad. Bad because he ends up not making much happen for anyone…including himself.
Additionally, DeRozan’s defense, while adequate for Summer League, is not yet at a level to guard starting NBA 2-guards, especially on a team with perimeter defense as bad as Toronto’s promises to be. TSN’s Tim Chisholm felt similar:

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His defense was certainly a work in progress, as was expected after one year of college ball. He looked lost A LOT off of the ball, rarely moving or using his length to disrupt plays, and he was beaten by his man frequently. While this isn’t a huge issue for a rookie like DeRozan, who was seen primarily as a scorer/athlete, it probably affects the plans of the Raptors going forward.
So the Raptors may not have found ‘the answer’ in DeRozan, yet. He promises to be an exciting player immediately, and someone who should contribute at an acceptable level on the offensive end. Ultimately, his potential depends as much on the other Raptors as himself; if Jay Triano and the Raptors’ ball handlers can do a good job of getting DeRozan his fair share of looks and opportunities, I feel he has superstar-level offensive potential. He has repeated his desire to learn and improve as well, which is always a good sign.

Of course, the Raptors may not need a second superstar to pair with Bosh. While the NBA has been dominated, Cavaliers excluded, by deep teams with several stars as of late, the Raptors boast a strong top-six with the addition of Jarrett Jack (and possibly top-seven if Delfino is, in fact, re-signed). To steal an overused baseball analogy, sometimes when you swing for the fences you end up with a single or a double…in the Raptors’ case, a hit of any kind should suffice in the short term.
Source - Where Does DeRozan Fit? - Raptors Republic - Raptors Blog ESPN True Hoop
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Old 07-21-2009, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
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hey any kind of hit i'm happy with as long as we don't get out.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:06 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Good Article. He's not ready defensively. Stick Antoine Wright in the starting line-up. Build Derozan confidence and game by letting him play with the second unit. When he's ready, stick him with the big boys. Jack and Derozan will light a spark in the second unit.


As I said before, Bosh and Jack will be great mentor's for Derozan. Apparently Bosh and Derozan are in town for Jack's news conference. The chemistry is already building.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
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dero said he was gonna practice his weaknesses from now until the beginning of the season and I'm sure he's working defense, a lot can be accomplished from now till then... in terms of learning. Experience though, that's gonna take some time. Wright will probably start the first 10-15 games till dero and the raps get a feel or where he's at.
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As of right now, I'd think that Wright starts at the two and DD comes off the bench at both wings positions, for a total of no less than 20 minutes per game. As the season goes on, and depending on his progress and stamina, I can easily see him starting.
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Old 07-21-2009, 12:05 PM   #6 (permalink)
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patience is key. i have hopes for this guy. and the Raps staff will make sure he gets his butt on gear =)
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Hopefully he gets more breathing room than Andrea received.
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Hopefully he gets more breathing room than Andrea received.
if he doesn't average more than 10 pts per game, im going to rip him up more than i ripped up bargnani. Also he better not throw up an airball or ill start a thread to discuss where to trade his ass.
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Hopefully he gets more breathing room than Andrea received.
Not being a #1 overall pick will certainly help.
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Hopefully he gets more breathing room than Andrea received.
what do you mean? from the fans or coaching staff?

i think Bargnani had plenty of breathing room. he's a number 1 who's best year to date is 15/5 on a 33 win team and the fans love him. they were very patient with his laziness even when he regressed in his second year and are still patient to date.

sam played him still around 25 minutes his rookie year and 24 the follwoing season as he regressed, that lazy POS. not that bad for breathing room considering his performance and how soft he was.
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Fans were all over him until he strung together a good second half of the season.
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Hopefully he gets more breathing room than Andrea received.
Why is that?
Barney got what he got, with the accompanying expectations because
he was sold to us a sure thing,
very low risk because he was a seasoned professional of 2-3 yrs and was a steal to be drafted first over all.

We were convinced that he was the real deal,
fully formed and vetted,
ready for the world,
however ... the proof of the pudding is always in the eating.


As for Demar Derozan's fortunes, the blogged expectations range from ne'er canada to heir canada,
which I personally loathe,
with unlimited upside, a future super/mega star in the not too distant future.

Well, for those of you wanting, needing, craving the next VC to idolize ...
get a {insert foul language here} grip on reality ...
that ship sailed as soon as we (fans/media) became insulting and verbally abusive and heaped personal scorn on his mother,
so what did you expect ... Max effort and better performance in a poisoned work environment?
[I tried to find any references to the floater/laid back tag being placed on Vince Carter leading up to his draft, but no such luck ... Interesting, but I digress]
(see F / U from the dailies in Toronto during the dark days)

TO ALL OF YOU IN THE BLOGOSPHERE, STOP THE CARTER/DEROZAN COMPARISONS AND REFERANCES. NOW!!

Its just infantile, and insults our intelligence.

Anyways,

Demar Derozan is the new Demar Derozan!

Show us your stuff Kid.

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this is a well presented case, bring on the NEW DEMAR DEROZAN... he will look good with a raps jersey on!
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Heelmaniac is right.

Demar is an awful lot like Carter. Mirrored images they are. Mirrored.
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Heelmaniac is right.

Demar is an awful lot like Carter. Mirrored images they are. Mirrored.

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