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Old 11-02-2008, 12:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Had I not known the score already after reading this you might of thought that the Raptors lost last night to the Bucks.

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Iím sitting here wanting to talk about tonightís game against he Bucks, but all I can think about is how Parker/Bosh/Calderon each played over 40 minutes, in back-to-back nights. In a game where the bench should have got some burn, they didnítÖand why you ask? Cause the bench isnít very good.Conundrum isnítÖisnít this team suppose to go the second round? At this point of the season, it isnít that Mitchell has lost trust in the bench, itís that he didnít have any to begin with. How else can you explain the lack of burn these guys have been getting? Itís not like they are a secret atomic weapon waiting to be unleashed at the right time. Itís Solomon, Adams, Graham and Humphries. They do a damn good job of keeping the bench warm, the towels dry and the gatorade cool for the starters, but ballers they arenít. Humphries isnít bad. He should have seen more then 4 minutes, he can rebound and bang in the paint. You need that in a tight game like this.

Itís all slowly coming together. All the time the non-starters got during the pre-season was Mitchell hoping they give him something he can use. Solomon had that one good game, but very little afterwardsÖthatís about it. Jawai has done nothing since his arrival but import a container of vegemite. Adams quite literally hasnít even broken a sweat.

Another slow start to the game for the Raptors. Bosh didnít even touch the ball after the tip until the 840 mark, then didnít attempt his first shot until the 520 mark. During the 6.5 minutes, Moon, the offensive juggernaut that he is, attempted 4 shots, forcing 2 rather badly, and hitting the other two. Needless to say I lost my voice. I donít understand why a guy who shoots 38% from beyond the arc attempts more three pointers then Kapono and Parker combined (he did hit 3 of them, but itís not his shot, he wont shoot 50% from beyond the arc again).

On top of that, he only grabbed 2 rebounds. So in three games, he has 3 rebounds. Just the kind of numbers you want to see out of your starting small forward. He grabbed 6 a game last season. This is a contract year. What the hell is he doing? Does he realize that this is probably going to be his last contract in the league? It wont even be a very long one, maybe 4 years if heís lucky, and that is pushing it. I wouldnít give him more then 3 (32 year old small forwards start to lose a step. fortunately for him, heís not the kamikaze type).

OíNeal had anotherÖbad meh game. No, it was bad. In 28 minutes, he managed 11pts, 8rebs, 4 to, a block and yeaÖhe fouled out. Itís not like he was playing a Shaq, Howard, YaoÖhe had Bogut (who has the tendency to be invisible for stretches). For some reason, Mitchell decided to play Moon at 4 when OíNeal fouled out, which led to Bosh being abused in the post by Bogut and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, for like 4 possessions. Finally, he brings in Bargnani, but that didnít change the tide of the game, it was just too late, and Milwaukee doesnít have the coaching or players to come back from being down.

Bosh was a stud again. 20pts, 10reb, 6ast in 41.5 minutes. Primo. The only knock on him was how he got abused late in the 4th by Bogut and Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. But after over 120 minutes in 3 days of carrying this team on his back, he gets a pass.
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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There's no way Jose, Bosh and Parker can consistently play 40+ minutes a night and continue to produce at a high level. Sam's been playing his starters at spots in the game where they should be resting, and it was obviously starting to take a toll on them in the latter part of the fourth. It's just gotten to the point where it's ridiculous - Roko only played something like four minutes last night, and he didn't even get any burn in stretches of the Sixers game where the Raptors were up by double digits.

Yes it's nice to have a strong bench, but the starters will be walking with canes by the end of the year if Smitch doesn't get in his head to strategically get his guys some rest. Then again, I don't even know if "strategy" is a word in Smitch's vocabulary...
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Old 11-02-2008, 12:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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wow, now first i have to agree that mitchell didnt play the bench at all. When we were diying the the 3-4th quaRTER he kept all hte starters on, everyone was cold and she couldent even make a change. The reason wh ythe game was so close was beucase we jsut wernt making any baskets, period! but ya this article is harsh as shit concidering we won. oh and michell hates kapono, thats why he never gets the ball.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow, talk about negativity. Hes like me 3 years ago, haha.

Saying JO was bad kills the credibility of that article. He didnt let Bogut score on him ONCE in 4 attempts, yes I was watching that closely, and his interior defence was superb. He looked meh on offence but still shot 50%. I dont think he had one foul where he was guarding his man and his man drew a foul on him, it was all help defence on dribble penetration and an off the ball foul and an illegal screen. JO was the main reason they couldnt score in the 3rd qtr.

The one thing in that article I do agree on is Moons rebounding. He isnt going hard enough after it and too much of the burden is being put on our bigs. Hes gotta turn into the beast from last year on the boards. I do like how hes playing on the offensive end, minus the start to the MIL game.

I think the solution to the bench is bringing them in earlier to spell some of the starters. Bring Joey in for Moon at the 5 minute mark and let him play with the starters, then Roko, let him play with Bosh and JO, and so on and so forth. If this doesnt give them confidence and help them play better then its time for BC to make a deal.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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-As jack said during the game, giving the starters extra time when you have a 4 day break before your next game isn't such a bad thing.

-Moon is a below average rebounder, just like he's a below average penetrator. It's just the way it is.

-And JO played exactly how he should play. The shot wasn't falling but he had an effective game.

-if their was anything ugly about last night's game, it was Skiles and his grind it out, use every available foul style of play. They put the pressure on the officiating crew to make calls that wouldn't sit very well an anxious home crowd.

-Milwaukee can't play that hard for 82 games, it will be interesting to see what happens when they start to tire.

-And Michael Redd isn't any better that Anthony Parker imo. Give Anthony Parker the green light for 48min, and he'll get 20/game np.

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Old 11-02-2008, 01:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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the dude makes a lot of comments where he doesn't validate them with WHY the events happened.

screw um.

Bogut did abuse Bosh a few times though...ouch
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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This guy is so full of shit it's not even funny.

Jermaine had 2 blocks that were both momentum killers for the Bucks. He played stifling defense while he was out there.

He set 1 or 2 moving charges, and then got 2 bullshit foul calls - one was a charge where he was set well in advance, and the other was where his arms got tangled up with someone else - like Mbah a Moute or something, for his 6th. No respect whatsoever.

I don't understand how you can bitch about the starter minutes last night. We were desparately trying to hold onto a slim lead; he gave the bench some burn in the 2nd quarter, but it was necessary to keep the starts in for the 3rd and 4th quarters. This is not going to happen every night, but if you want to beat the bucks in their home opener, you have to make some sacrifies and play your starters a lot.

Skiles was riding his starters hard, too. Redd played 44 minutes. Jefferson played 36, and would have played more but was ineffective early. Sessions played 37. Charlie V played 27 only due to very early foul trouble.

I agree Mitchell's substitutions in past seasons has been questionable, but so far, you cannot argue with the results: we're 3-0 for a reason.
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Humphries is a black hole and unfortunately we needed to score last night because it was so close. He's good at getting easy points when we break a game open, but not pressure situation scoring when we need ball movement (which just stops when Hump touches the ball). Ukic and Graham were shitty last night.

Keeping Parker out on Redd was a good idea. Moon shot ok (4-8, 3-6 on 3s) and played decent ball except for not exerting any effort on rebounding.

Jermaine was sick on D, and decent on O. Too many turnovers, but he still has some rust to play through.

Bizarro Andrea played pretty solid D last night (like game 1) but couldn't buy a bucket. What the fuck is with this guy? 0 points, 19 points and now 0 points in his first 3 games, respectively. I hope another 19 is dropped next game.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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yeah - it sucked we've won, now that we're 3-0, no way we can make it to the 2nd round ...
I have no problem with negativity, but what's this guy's point? That we suck and still win? That's good, it means that once we start playing better we'll win even more.
That we have a thin bench? Everybody knows that - and so did the Celtics last season. I suggest he takes a close look at SA's bench - they're even worse.

All this article does make the author look like he's sorry we're winning because he was hoping we go 0-3 and then he can brag how smart he was when he said signing JO was a huge mistake.
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Bizarro Andrea played pretty solid D last night (like game 1) but couldn't buy a bucket. What the fuck is with this guy? 0 points, 19 points and now 0 points in his first 3 games, respectively. I hope another 19 is dropped next game.
he only had 3 shots though. Despite two 0 point games, he's still shooting 50%+ from the field.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:39 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Poor Sam just can't seem to win with the majority of Raptors fans, regardless if he wins or loses they point out something that they deem EVERY knowledgeable basketball guru knows and Sam doesnt, i mean, he was only trying to win the game with a 4 day layoff ahead of them in a tight situation and the bench hasnt looked too strong so far. Good thing Sam doesnt give 2 $#%s what backseat drivers think, do your thing Smitch, so far it seems you have really turned a corner in terms of matchups and rotations and doing what it takes to win close games.
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Old 11-02-2008, 03:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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JO is going to foul out almost every game whether he plays good D or not. He is the only line of defense against attacking guards who are going to have no problem getting past our perimeter "defense." Its a good thing that the plan is to have him play around 30 minutes a game because he's never going to last 40 with this team as is (due to foul trouble).
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Also on the Mitchell keeping the starters out at the end, I'd have to agree with it. They were cold, but if he got the bench out and didn't win he would feel our wrath. I can't really argue with keeping our starting guys on regardless of how cold they are... if they best can't get it done the game is lost. Not to mention the bench had been awful up to that point.
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he only had 3 shots though. Despite two 0 point games, he's still shooting 50%+ from the field.
I'm not saying Andrea is an albatross around our neck or anything, but it's bizarre and he's been very unpredictable - it's hard to know what to expect from him on a nightly basis. At least so far, he's been relatively efficient. But he should still try to take it to the hole a hell of a lot more - nobody can guard him that effectively when he plays agressively!!
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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-Moon is a below average rebounder, just like he's a below average penetrator. It's just the way it is.
His 6 rebounds PER GAME last yr says otherwise. Hes defending better but hes also focusing too much on his offence, he needs to stop leaking out and start rebounding or we're gonna keep getting killed on the boards.

Welcome to RF btw, whend you leave the ESPN boards?
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I agree,our bench stinks! Beyond,Bargnani/Kapono! The rest of the players you don't know what you're going to get from night to night!
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